Vegan Quote of the Day

Provoked: Tomorrow is my best friend’s birthday. Tradition: Every year we go out to eat - her husband/mine/me. I was vegetarian for a long while but now as vegan - I doubt seriously there’s much on my plate at all. Compound this with my husband who is now vegetarian AND her husband on this low/no carb atkins diet. What a pickle, huh? At this point, with what I now know (which made me vegan), I don’t think I could stomach watching someone consume flesh - it’s just gross. Any suggestions?

ahisma: Saw this one too late … how’d it go?

Provoked: I have procrastinated to embarrassment. I emailed a happy birthday, I called - but nothing else. I have a card/gift that I intend to drop over tomorrow. I’ve really blown this one. I am what I do not eat: chicken.

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I found this through Soul Veggie. Based on the title, I thought it would just be a rant against mock meats, but it’s actually an interesting and well-researched article. I particularly liked its take on growing up vegetarian:

As the Analogue Epoch rolls into its second generation, more and more babies are being born into meatless households. They grow up never having tasted the stuff, their memory banks lacking all trace of that particular bloody crunch, those opalescent beads of fat, those glistening tubules, those hot fluids that feel almost alive. They do not share with nearly their entire species, dating back into prehistory, those happy-birthday hamburgers and Mom’s meatloaf and fresh-fish cookouts coded to condition us to crave and cherish flesh. These creatures of a true new age know not the dinner-table surgery that entails shearing skin and fat from flesh and flesh from bone and shell, the rib-holding hand rendered lustrously, shirt-spoilingly greasy.

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Are Humans Carnivores, Omnivores or Herbivores?

I’m going to estimate that at least a slim majority of vegans believe humans are omnivores. Obviously that doesn’t mean they think that humans must eat animal products along with plants. Just because humans can eat meat doesn’t mean they should. Carnivores have no choice — they have to be blood-thirsty, evil bastards to survive. Omnivores on the other hand can get away with acting like herbivores because our bodies make due with whatever we toss in ‘em.

There’s a flaw in this logic, though. If the omnivorous nature of humans allows us to be pure vegetarians without a hitch, then humans could exploit that flexibility in the other direction and just as easily be pure carnivores. Yet almost no vegans believe that a human can be carnivorous healthfully.

Coming to the rescue are vegans who argue that humans are in fact herbivores. According to this assertion, vegans aren’t taking advantage of the plasticity of human dietary needs; rather, they’re observing the true and natural human diet. This vegan subset feels it’s a better bet to frame veganism as a physiological requirement. If you allow meat eaters the choice of whether or not to keep eating meat, most of them will choose incorrectly. It’s more effective to argue that not only should we not eat animal products, we cannot.

To make their points, “humans are herbivores” vegans compose charts comparing human traits to the characteristics of established carnivores and herbivores (omnivorism is dismissed as a mildly modified carnivorism in such charts). These charts always conclude that humans are obviously herbivores.

Here’s an example on GoVeg.com. Here’s an elaboration by Dr. Milton Mills.

GoVeg links to a supporting article by John Robbins. Robbins gave up the Baskin Robbins fortune to advocate veganism, so you better believe he’s going to take the hard line approach. He points out how difficult it would be for a human to tackle a deer and bite its head off. Then he quotes nutrition author Harvey Diamond as saying, “You put a baby in a crib with an apple and a rabbit. If it eats the rabbit and plays with the apple, I’ll buy you a new car.” Incidentally, Harvey Diamond later repudiated vegetarianism.

Also referenced on the GoVeg.com page is Dr. William C. Roberts, M.D., editor of the American Journal of Cardiology:

[A]lthough we think we are one and we act as if we are one, human beings are not natural carnivores. When we kill animals to eat them, they end up killing us because their flesh, which contains cholesterol and saturated fat, was never intended for human beings, who are natural herbivores.

Chilling stuff. But check out this sneaky little equivocation from Dr. Roberts:

Question to Dr. Roberts: “Are human beings herbivores, carnivores, or omnivores?” Answer from Dr. Roberts: Although most of us conduct our lives as omnivores, in that we eat flesh as well as vegetables and fruits, human beings have characteristics of herbivores, not carnivores.”

Did you catch that switcheroo? Because that’s often how “humans are herbivores” vegans address the question of omnivorism. They don’t address the question — they substitute “carnivore” for “omnivore” and hope you don’t notice. 

Now he’s an interesting bit of gossip for you. I know someone who used to work at Baylor Heart & Vascular Hospital, where Dr. Roberts still works, and he thought he saw Dr. Roberts eating chicken there. “Doesn’t he talk about how humans are herbivores?,” my source asked a co-worker. “Yes, but he eats fish and chicken,” the co-worker was rumored to say. Does Dr. Roberts not care that the saturated fat and cholesterol in that flesh is killing his gentle herbivorous body?! And if not, doesn’t he care that he’s frightening people away from foods that he enjoys regularly?

Still, a vegetarian leader not following his own advice doesn’t make us omnivores. If humans are herbivores and thus unable to properly digest animal products, I’ll have to clarify that the “Them” in my blog name refers to actual carnivores and omnivores, not omnivore pretenders like humans. But I don’t want to have to do that. So I decided to create my own chart that would prove humans were at least omnivores and were maybe even carnivores.

Unfortunately, reality is not a clay to be molded any which way I like. During my research, as I increasingly encountered inconvenient facts and figures contradicting everything I had set out to prove, the bitter ex-vegan devil on my shoulder whispered, “Who cares if you’re wrong?! You have to crush veganism at any cost! You must destroy those who strive for compassion over violence! If you have to lie to do that, then lie your fucking head off, man!”

But guess what? I shooed that anti-vegan devil away. I am a truth seeker — even if that means admitting that everything I have ever said, thought or done is 100 percent incorrect. This wasn’t easy for me. But for the sake of intellectual honesty, I present my “Are Humans Carnivores, Omnivores or Herbivores?” chart.

Let’s start by comparing humans to the typical carnivore…

Carnivore

CELL STRUCTURE
CARNIVORE: Rigid cell wall, non-motile, chloroplasts, plasmodesmata.
HUMAN: Soft cell wall, motile, lysosomes, centrioles, flagella.

AVERAGE WEIGHT
CARNIVORE: 3 lb., including pot and dirt.
HUMAN: 170 lb., including clothes.

NUMBER OF STOMACHS
CARNIVORE: Zero.
HUMAN: One.

METHOD OF REPRODUCTION
CARNIVORE: Seed.
HUMAN: Doing “it.”

SKIN TEXTURE
CARNIVORE: Leafy.
HUMAN: Fleshy.

LAND OF ORIGIN
CARNIVORE: North and South Carolina.
HUMAN: Africa.

MAIN PROTEIN SOURCE
CARNIVORE: Insects.
HUMAN: Gardein Home Style Beefless Tips.

ADDITIONAL ENERGY SOURCE
CARNIVORE: The sun.
HUMAN: Amy’s Non-Dairy Rice Crust Cheeze Pizza.

DIGESTION TIME
CARNIVORE: 10 days.
HUMAN: 2 days.

LENGTH OF INTESTINES
CARNIVORE: Not applicable. 
HUMAN: 28 feet.

SOURCE OF CHOLESTEROL
CARNIVORE: Flies. 
HUMAN: Self-produced.

COLON CANCER AND/OR HEART ATTACK RISK FROM ALL-MEAT DIET
CARNIVORE: No colon or heart to attack.  
HUMAN: With both a colon and a heart, risks to these organs may exist.

POPULATION IN 1992
CARNIVORE: 35,800. 
HUMAN: 5.5 billion.

MEANS OF COMMUNICATION
CARNIVORE: Intricate network of underground root and chemical connections.
HUMAN: Language.

GUILTY CONSCIENCE FROM EATING SENTIENT CREATURES?
CARNIVORE: Never. 
HUMAN: Sometimes.

NUMBER OF HEADS
CARNIVORE: Often seven or more. 
HUMAN: One.

MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION
CARNIVORE: Swaying in breeze. 
HUMAN: Legs.

BODY OR STEM?
CARNIVORE: Stem. 
HUMAN: Body.

If humans are indeed carnivores, then, we must look something like this:

Human Carnivore

Does that seem right to you? Are we carnivores? Before you give me your final answer, let’s see if humans can find a little more common ground with one of nature’s most notorious omnivores:

Omnivore

What a disgraceful creature. But are these miserable omnivorous scavengers anything like humans?

AVERAGE WEIGHT
OMNIVORE: One third of a pound.
HUMAN: 170 lb.

METHOD OF REPRODUCTION
OMNIVORE: Laying eggs.
HUMAN: “The nasty.”

ABILITY TO STALK PREY FROM AIR AND SWOOP DOWN FOR A SURPRISE ATTACK
OMNIVORE: Able.
HUMAN: Unable.

LAND OF ORIGIN
OMNIVORE: Asia.
HUMAN: Africa.

MOUTH TYPE
OMNIVORE: Sharp beak for biting carrion.
HUMAN: Soft lips for nibbling fruit.

FAVORITE HORSE-RELATED ACTIVITY
OMNIVORE: Eating horses on the beach.
HUMAN: Riding horses on the beach.

SIZE OF INTESTINES
OMNIVORE: A few inches at best.
HUMAN: 28 feet. Not inches. Feet.

METHOD OF OPENING NUTS
OMNIVORE: Dropping nuts in the street and waiting for cars to run over them.
HUMAN: Purchasing unshelled nuts.

AWARENESS THAT ONE ANIMAL SHOULD NOT EAT ANOTHER ANIMAL
OMNIVORE: Seemingly unaware.
HUMAN: Sometimes aware.

FAVORITE MOVIE
OMNIVORE: The Crow.
HUMAN: The Shawshank Redemption.

FAVORITE EDGAR ALLEN POE STORY
OMNIVORE: The Raven.
HUMAN: The Tell-Tale Heart.

FAVORITE FABLE
OMNIVORE: The Crow and the Pitcher.
HUMAN: The Little Mermaid.

MEANS OF FLIGHT
OMNIVORE: God-given wings.
HUMAN: Fossil fuel raped from mother earth.

APPENDAGES
OMNIVORE: Sharp claws for ripping and tearing flesh.
HUMAN: Soft hands for gently picking fruit.

So it seems that if humans were omnivores, this is what we’d look like:

Human Omnivore

You still think humans are omnivores, Mr. Michael “I try to eat humane meat but I’ll eat factory farmed meat if it’s more convenient” Pollan? Wait, don’t say anything yet! We still have to examine the most moral, distinguished and civilized of the groups… the herbivores:

Herbivore

AVERAGE WEIGHT
HERBIVORE: 170 kg.
HUMAN: 170 lb.

LANGUAGE
HERBIVORE: Sign language.
HUMAN: Sign language, et al.

BLOOD TYPE
HERBIVORE: B.
HUMAN: B and some others.

LAND OF ORIGIN
HERBIVORE: AFRICA.
HUMAN: AFRICA.

REPRODUCTION
HERBIVORE: “The wild thing.”
HUMAN: “The wild thing.”

FETAL GESTATION TIME
HERBIVORE: 8 1/2 months.
HUMAN: Around 8 1/2 months.

FAMILY ACTIVITY
HERBIVORE: A day in at the zoo.
HUMAN: A day out at the zoo.

DISTINCTIVE DENTAL FEATURES
HERBIVORE: Sharp canine teeth that are not for eating meat.
HUMAN: Sharp canine teeth that are not for eating meat.

NUMBER OF HEADS
HERBIVORE: One.
HUMAN: One.

INTESTINE SIZES
HERBIVORE: Small and large intestine.
HUMAN: Small and large intestine.

OTHER SIGNIFICANT BODY PARTS
HERBIVORE: Legs, arms, lungs, fingers, eyes, one brain and one heart.
HUMAN: Legs, arms, lungs, fingers, eyes, one brain and one heart.

Putting all that together, this is what we might expect a human herbivore to look like:

Human Herbivore

So which is it? Are humans carnivores, omnivores or herbivores?

Well, the evidence is all there. The rest is for you to decide.

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A vegan blogger spells out why lacto-ovo vegetarianism is a worthless compromise that is, at best, equivalent to “part-time murder or part-time child abuse. … Thinking that shuffling out this or that animal product is ‘enough’ is like telling onself that it’s alright to beat the hell out of one’s child on Tuesdays as long as one refrains from doing so the rest of the week.”

There’s nothing new here if you’re familiar with vegan arguments against flesh-abstaining vegetarians who still have a taste for animal secretions, but for anyone who didn’t realize that vegans have such a problem with their butter-licking cousins, this is a good primer.

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"This sucks massively: the New York Times just published an article glamorizing condensed milk. It’s as if everything learned over the past twenty years about healthful and sustainable eating has gone out the window."

I didn’t watch “Paleo Man” John Durant’s appearance on The Colbert Report. Well, I started to, but the first few words out of his mouth rubbed me the wrong way, so I stopped. Him representing the Paleo diet was threatening to turn me vegan again. But I liked this skit with him vs. the vegan guy. I think it helped that there’s no talking.

"I became a vegetarian because someone from Vegan Outreach came to my college campus and leafletted. I’m really grateful they were there that day and that someone paid to have that booklet printed. It changed my life."

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How Being Vegan is Like Being Pro-Life

ProLife1 meat is murder

In my ex-vegan interview with Stella today, she compares vegan ideology to pro-life ideology:

If you truly believe that killing animals (or even “exploiting” animals for their eggs, say) is categorically wrong, then you must speak or act against it. A parallel would be the way in which religious anti-abortion activists believe that a human zygote or fetus, at any stage, is morally a human being and it is therefore wrong to injure, hurt, or kill said zygote or fetus (a belief very few vegans seem to share, interestingly).  Since they believe all forms of abortion are ethically equivalent to murder, they must speak and act against it.

This reminded me of my ex-vegan interview with Cory Kilduff. Cory said he quit doing vegan activism when he recognized how similar his anti-fur protest was to an anti-abortion protest across the street.

Vegans are stereotypically civil libertarians who support choice when it involves women and their fetuses, yet vegan arguments perfectly parallel anti-abortion ones when you substitute “animal” for “fetus.”

As Cory’s protest comparison emphasizes, both anti-meat and anti-abortion protesters rely on bloody, gruesome imagery to turn stomachs and change minds. These plays upon emotion are supposedly fair tactics because they are just images from real life. If you can’t stand the sight of a decapitated cow/aborted late-term fetus, then how do you justify eating meat/having an abortion?

To pro-lifers, abortion is never necessary because there are alternatives, like putting the child up for adoption. To vegans, animal products are never necessary because there are alternatives… like wheat gluten.

Pro-life activists give a voice to the voiceless fetuses, who have a right to life and feel pain. Animal activists give a voice to the voiceless animals, who have a right to life and feel pain.

Some pro-lifers cheer the death of abortion doctors. Some vegans cheer the death of hunters or famous meat advocates like Dr. Atkins.

Pro-lifers contemptuously look down on women who who have abortions, calling them immoral for killing out of mere “convenience.” Vegans contemptuously look down on meat eaters, calling them immoral for killing to satisfy lowly “taste preferences.”

Pro-lifers argue that a fetus is not the mother’s property, that it has inherent worth and is an end unto itself. Vegans argue that animals are nobody’s property, that they have inherent worth and are ends unto themselves.

To pro-lifers, the only excuse for aborting a fetus is if the mother’s life is at stake. To vegans, the only excuse for killing an animal is in self-defense or to avoid immediate starvation.

Some pro-lifers compare abortion to the holocaust. Some vegans compare factory farming to the holocaust.

abortion+holocaust MassMurder

The “My body, my choice” counterpoint to pro-life arguments is the same as the omnivorous retort to veganism — “My body, my menu choices.” The pro-life/vegan answer to both of these arguments is the same: screw your body, what about the other creature’s body that you’re killing?

“Our bodies are more important,” say abortion and meat pro-choicers. But vegans and pro-lifers disagree. The moral status of these respective beings (non-human animals, fetuses) is equal to that of humans and so we should treat them as such. You wouldn’t abort your best friend or eat your mother, would you? Then you better not abort that innocent fetus/eat that innocent cow.

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A very funny song about vegan boys from a vegansaurus! contributor.

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"One approach Julie’s been having success with is to focus on how much her family has in common with non-veg family and friends. As she puts it, her son ‘was ecstatic when he figured out that ‘‘cow people’’ can eat vegan food too, that grandpa can eat tofu and beans just like we can.’ Julie finds that various ‘course corrections’ are helpful: ‘We still get some pushback from him; he’ll say that he hates people who ‘‘are cow.’’ We’ve had a lot of talks about how he doesn’t hate grandma; he loves grandma and wishes that grandma was vegan like he is.’"

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