"But if an individual felt it was necessary for the [vivisector] to be assassinated, then sure, I would say they’re right in feeling that it would be practical and pragmatic to stop (the oppression). … There’s only so much you can say to someone before it’s exhausting. And that’s what I think these anonymous individuals feel: that the pressure needs to be stepped up, that these people have been asked nicely enough. Maybe if something they care about—their property, their car—maybe if that is threatened—or their lives, they care about their lives—if that’s threatened, then maybe they’ll start to think about what they’re really doing and go towards a different avenue. … Anonymous individuals are taking more aggressive, militant actions because they’ve educated enough. They’ve talked enough. People don’t choose violence. And you know what? I don’t even like to say that it’s violence. I like to say it’s justice, or extensional self-defense for these animals who can’t defend themselves."