Why Bugs Annoy Vegans

Bugs are small, they get around, they like our food, we need them for their pollination skills and there are just so damn many of them. And because of all this, we are killing them constantly — especially in agriculture. Yet they meet the vegan qualifications for suffering consideration and rights.

This is a problem.

Recently I’ve seen a couple of vegan blogs criticizing conscientious meat eaters for not eating insects, which are the most environmentally friendly and likely the most healthful animals to eat. Vegansaurus! recently had a post sarcastically endorsing bug eating, and Robert at PaleoVeganology is always calling out caveman diet followers on the dearth of creepy crawlies in their paleolithic aspiring food choices.

You might think this means that vegans are more okay with eating insects than other sorts of animals, but most vegans aren’t actually that thrilled when someone calls their bluff and goes vegan except for Jiminy Cricket.

A vegan who was considering an entomophagic deviation from the standard vegan line posted his idea to reddit/vegan, telling vegans of the Internet that he was looking for a higher quality source of protein than vegan food that was ethical, and thought raising mealworms in his backyard and stir frying them might be the answer.

There were a couple of supportive voices in the ~100-comment thread, but mostly what he got were stern reminders about vegan foods that are considered high in protein. Instead of growing bugs off of his rotting food scraps, he should be eating: tempeh, spirulina, beans, corn, rice, pea protein powder, seitan and Daiya cheeze sandwiches, BBQ seitan sandwiches, tofu, nut butters and/or nutritional yeast.

When an entomophagy sympathizer would point out that it kills more insects to grow and transport these foods than it would kill to raise insects off compost and eat them directly, the specter of intent was raised. 

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The Survival Exemption: Great for Vegans Stranded on an Island…. Horrible for Veganism

Three major animal rights philosophers agree: it is okay to kill animals when you have no other form of sustenance.

None of this discussion is intended to suggest that people who need to kill animals in order to survive – people living in poverty who are struggling to get enough to feed themselves and their families, or those living a traditional hunting and gathering existence – should not do so. If cows, pigs, chickens and the other animals we usually eat are self-aware, they are still not self-aware to anything like the extent that humans normally are. I agree with Varner and Scruton that the more one thinks of one’s life as a story that has chapters still to be written, and the more one hopes for achievements yet to come, the more one has to lose by being killed. For this reason, when there is an irreconcilable conflict between the basic survival needs of animals and of normal humans, it is not speciesist to give priority to the lives of those with a geographical sense of their life and a stronger orientation toward the future.

— Peter Singer, Practical Ethics, p. 122

There are five survivors, four normal adult human beings and a dog. The boat will support only four. All will perish if one is not sacrificed. Which one ought to be cast overboard? The rights view’s answer is: the dog. The magnitude of the harm that death is, it has been argued, is a function of the number and variety of opportunities for satisfaction it forecloses for a given individual, and it is not speciesist to claim that the death of any of these humans would be a prima facie greater harm in their case than the harm death would be in the case of the dog. Indeed, numbers make no difference in this case. A million dogs ought to be cast overboard if that is necessary to save the four normal humans, the aggregate of the lesser harms of the individual animals harming no one in a way that is prima facie comparable to the harm death would be to any of these humans. But suppose, a critic may conjecture, it is not a question of having enough room on the boat. Imagine it is a question of which individual to eat if four others are to survive. Who should be eaten? The rights view’s answer, once again, is: the dog. And it is the dog who should be eaten because the harm that death is in the case of that animal is not as great a harm as the harm that death would be in the case of any of these humans. In lifeboat cases, in short, the obligation to be vegetarian can be justifiably overridden, according to the rights view. The survivors would be acting within their rights, justified by appeal to the liberty principle, if they chose to kill and eat the dog in these dire circumstances.

— Tom Regan, The Case for Animal Rights, p. 351

What about the situation in which we have no choice but to eat an animal or starve? Assume that Simon is stranded on a remote, snow-covered mountain after a plane crash. He is starving and there is neither a reasonable hope of rescue nor any vegetables available. When a rabbit happens by, Simon is confronted with the choice of killing the rabbit or starving. Just as we would be inclined to excuse Simon if, under these extreme circumstances, he killed and ate a human—which has in fact happened more than once—his killing the rabbit would also be excusable and completely consistent with the animal rights position. … [In] the case of animals, we may well decide that although animals are similar to us in that they are sentient—the only characteristic that is relevant for the purpose of having a right not to be treated as a resource—there may be other characteristics of humans that cause us to tip the balance in their favor in these extreme and unusual cases.

— Gary L. Francione, Introduction to Animal Rights: Your Child or the Dog, pp. 158-159

Now don’t take this to mean that it’s okay to eat meat when you’re not in a lifeboat, crashed on a mountain, poor or in a hunter-gatherer society. Sure, most vegans would say it’s okay to eat meat if you’re trapped on an island with no other choice. Since we’re not trapped on a vegetable-free hypothetical zone and likely never will be, however, vegans consider it a moot point.

Sounds reasonable. But let’s see how moot it really is.

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How Animals Eating Each Other Royally Screws Veganism

“Hey vegan, why is it okay for animals to eat animals if it’s wrong for us to eat animals?”

Though a cliché, and probably on a “defensive omnivore bingo” card somewhere, there’s something to this. Vegans say that causing animal suffering is wrong. But animals cause suffering to each other all the time. Shouldn’t vegans see that as wrong too?

Vegans have heard this line a million times and they have a few stock answers for it:

1. “We can’t look to nature for moral guidance.”

2. “Animals that eat animals need to do so in order to survive, and veganism makes an exception for survival.”

3. “Animals can eat other animals because they don’t have a conscience and thus don’t grasp the moral implications of their actions. Unlike us.”

Point 1, a naturalistic fallacy accusation, only applies when the question is worded along the lines of, “Animals eat each other, so why shouldn’t we eat them?” That’s a little different. “Why is it okay for animals to eat animals if it’s wrong for us to eat animals?” isn’t saying that it is right for us to eat meat because animals do. It is instead asking why animal suffering is only wrong when humans cause it.

Point 2 conflicts with points 1 and 3 because it implies that the vegan code of morality does indeed apply to other animals. It’s just that wild animals are taking advantage of veganism’s survival exemption clause, which states that it’s okay to kill animals when your life depends on it.

The problem with this second one is that it glosses over wild animals who are classified as omnivores or even herbivores but eat meat anyway. Vegans like to say that omnivorism makes humans adaptable, giving us the option of thriving on a vegan diet. As omnivores, we can choose to act as herbivores and still survive, which means the only reasons for us to eat animal products are taste, convenience, habit and tradition. So if vegan morality applies to wild animals, as point two is assuming it does, omnivorous animals who haven’t run out of plant food sources have no excuse for ever eating animals. Chimpanzees who can thrive on a vegan diet but occasionally go on an “unnecessary” joy hunt for the pleasure of eating flesh have committed a moral wrong. And so have carnivores who eat more than they absolutely need to survive. After all, vegans tell ex-vegans who betray the animals for health reasons that they should eat only the bare minimum of animal products required to get by. If vegan morality applies to animals, then carnivores ought to kill only what they must to live, of course making sure to tear apart their prey as painlessly and humanely as possible. If wild carnivores kill any more than that, according to point two, they have committed a wrong. Wild carnivores would also need to indulge in cannibalism now and again, as per the argument from marginal cases, to avoid speciesism. 

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How Will We Talk Aliens Out of Eating Us if We Eat Meat?

One of the major worries that vegans have about humanity’s meat habit is that an advanced alien species will come to Earth, see that we’re eating animals, and then think it’s okay to eat us. Jonathan Safran Foer, just one of many meat abstainers to raise this concern, asks in Eating Animals:

If we were to one day encounter a form of life more powerful and intelligent than our own, and it regarded us as we regard fish, what would be our argument against being eaten?

The implication of Foer’s rhetorical question is that if we didn’t eat meat, then we would have an argument against being eaten. But what would that argument be? “We don’t eat meat, so you can’t eat us”? An advanced alien civilization would instantly see this weak objection for what it really is: the naturalistic fallacy in another form. When meat eaters say that animals eating animals in nature gives us license to eat animals too, vegans accuse them of the naturalistic fallacy — the belief that because something happens in nature it is okay for us to do it as well. Vegans hate this fallacy more than any other. Yet the alien hypothetical rests on it. Because if it’s incorrect to say that animals eating animals makes it okay for us to eat animals, it’s also incorrect to say that animals not eating animals makes it wrong for us to eat animals. An advanced alien civilization who saw us as we see fish should not look at our actions to guide their own.

And if it were okay for aliens to eat us because we eat animals, then by extension it’s okay for us to eat animals who eat other animals. So either way we get to eat meat. 

As a thought experiment, the alien hypothetical is a misleading one. It wants to get us to see things from the animals’ perspective, but it botches this by putting us in the same situation as animals while maintaining our perspectives as humans. Asking a human how they would feel being raised free range on a farm with death for food being their inevitable end is like asking a human how they would feel being an industrially raised stalk of corn, with their legs stuck underground, unable to move, never being able to sit or lie down, pelted by rain, rustled by wind and pecked at by crows. With the physical attributes and cognitive abilities of a human, that would suck, but might not be as bad for a stiff, brainless stalk of corn.

Same with the humanely raised animal. A pig being raised for food simply will not suffer the same existential anguish as the forced human organ donors in Never Let Me Go.

It’s also worth noting that this hypothetical assumes that aliens would see humans as superior in some way. Why else would aliens single out humans for carnivorous judgment, dumping a special kind of responsibility on us while leaving the lions and sharks to their blood lust? If vegans are right that it is only our own speciesism that tells us there is something special about humans, wouldn’t aliens lacking that human bias see us as just another species of living creatures, with no more of a need to defend out meat eating ways than any other beings? Why would they challenge us but not the venus fly traps? 

Furthermore, the alien hypothetical actually undercuts veganism by assuming that a race of advanced beings — more intelligent than even the brightest human — would be meat eaters. If ultra-enlightened, space traveling organisms see no problem with eating meat, who are we to question their wisdom by restricting ourselves to the plant kingdom?

A more troubling question for vegans to ask would be, “What if a hyper-intelligent race of aliens invaded our planet and didn’t eat us?”

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Problems With the Argument From Marginal Cases and Using Sentience as a Basis for Rights

The logical case for obligatory veganism rests entirely on the Argument From Marginal Cases. This is the argument claiming there is no morally significant difference distinguishing every human from all other animals. You can’t say that humans get rights and other animals don’t because humans are intelligent, have long-term ambitions and are capable of rights/responsibilities exchanges with one another, because what about babies and the severely intellectually impaired? They have rights (don’t they?) and they aren’t intelligent, they don’t have ambitions and they can’t respect our rights in exchange for us respecting theirs.

So why do we dangle rights in front of animals and then yank them away, only to give those rights to babies and the mentally impaired, whose mental states are similar to or sometimes lower than that of adult animals? If we say “because babies and the intellectually impaired are human,” that is speciesism, and we might as well be saying that straight people are allowed to get married because they have sex with the opposite gender. Is this why babies have rights? A racism-like prejudice in favor of our own kind? Or is it something else?

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Defensive Vegan Bingo

Meat eaters think vegans are on a constant moral superiority high, but this is often a misconception. It’s true that most vegans believe they follow more rational, compassionate and consistent moral guidelines than corpse eaters; this doesn’t mean, however, that vegans are more self-satisfied than the rest of us.

For most vegans, those who are “doing it for the right reasons” anyway, veganism is the least they can possibly do. Their moral baseline has shifted. “It’s wrong to unnecessarily harm other people” no longer suffices. “It’s wrong to unnecessarily harm other sentient beings” is the motto now. Vegans must avoid animal products just to meet this new minimum level of decency. There’s nothing especially noble in this because they are avoiding a wrong, not doing a good. If they were to stop being vegan without changing their ethics, they wouldn’t then feel as good about themselves as the average omnivore does — they would feel much worse.

Ethical veganism spreads through guilt. Vegan advocates preach troubling facts about factory farming, making people feel horrible about themselves for participating in such an evil industry. But don’t worry, vegans say, there’s a solution to feeling horrible: stop eating animal products and you will no longer feel culpable for animal suffering.

If no other guilt-resolving strategies present themselves, the now distressed omnivore is likely to become vegetarian or vegan, since most people aren’t willing to hate themselves every time they eat.

Veganism, then, does not necessarily improve self-esteem. It temporarily disrupts and lowers self-esteem and then shows you how to recover it. You go from normal, to bad, back to normal again. But it’s not a neutral transaction. Veganism allows you to feel as good about yourself as you did before you watched Earthlings to impress your vegan boyfriend, but now you have to work more to achieve that earlier equilibrium. Your life is harder, yet you feel no better about yourself than does a McDonalds lover who thinks that we’re obviously meant to eat animals since God made them out of meat. 

Vegans often comment on the phenomenon of the “defensive omnivore.” These are meat eaters who, when confronted with information about factory farming or other unsavory aspects of animal use, try to dismiss the vegan with ludicrous retorts. One vegan collected many of the stock omnivore replies to vegan arguments and put them on a bingo card:

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If there is no God to create and mandate morality, infusing ethics into the universe as something actual that humans must obey, where does morality come from? That’s the question posed to atheist Animal Liberation author Peter Singer in this clip from his debate with Dinesh D’Souza, and at least in this excerpt, he has trouble answering the question.

Actually, he doesn’t answer it at all. Instead, he imagines a more banal question and answers that one: “Who comes up with ethical rules if not people who believe in God?” His answer to this is Confucianists, Buddhists and The Stoics. He neglected to mention himself.

But what about the more interesting question? Does Singer not know where morality comes from if not from God? It’s not that hard to figure this one out. What do Stoics, Confucianists and Buddhists have in common? They’re humans. Without a God or some other all-encompassing force determining right and wrong in the universe, morality comes from humans. Where else could it come from?

This raises another question that Singer didn’t answer, although this time he has the excuse that nobody asked it. If morality is something that comes from us because there is no God to judge our actions, why should humans turn morality against ourselves in the form of animal rights — extending consensual agreements between humans to creatures who have no way to reciprocate — when doing so is nothing but a disadvantage to humans? Without a God wagging his finger at us for eating animals, what’s the point of not eating them? Who are we trying to impress? (I know, I know… ourselves.)

The official vegan objection to selfishly devising a morality that permits animal use is two-pronged: speciesism is no different from racism/sexism/homophobia, and The Argument From Marginal Cases says that if we don’t want to raise and kill babies and the intellectually handicapped for food, then to be consistent, we can’t raise and kill animals for food either.

The first part of that objection depends on the second. The reason we know speciesism is no different than racism is that The Argument From Marginal Cases teaches us that there is no morally relevant difference between humans and other animals. Babies and the extremely mentally impaired don’t have any of the qualities that we say makes humans special, so only sentience can explain why we don’t eat babies, and animals have that too. If you reject the sentience basis for equal consideration and say that humans are special by virtue of their arbitrary biological basis of being human, there is no difference between you and George Wallace except that your form of prejudice is almost universally accepted.

The Argument From Marginal Cases does not make an exception for health, which means that if humans were obligate omnivores and needed some amount of animal product to thrive, we would have to eat human babies and the intellectually handicapped once a week for the sake of consistency. Luckily, most advocates of this argument are vegans who don’t believe we need any amount of animal product to thrive. And if they did decide they needed some animal products to feel healthy, they would probably reconsider The Argument From Marginal Cases.  

Another problem with the AMC is that it’s reductive. As Jean Kazez wrote in her entry about this, the fact that babies and the intellectually handicapped have sentience is not the actual reason we don’t kill and eat them. There are a lot of good reasons not to raise babies and the extremely intellectually impaired for food. For one thing, we don’t need to — we have other animals for that. Also, turning babies into food would upset their parents. And that’s one way around the AMC for non-vegans: babies don’t have direct rights, but their parents do, and one of these rights is the safety of their babies.

In the same way, you could say that a dog doesn’t have direct rights, but when there are humans with a direct emotional attachment to her, the dog has protections because it would harm the owners (who have rights) if you killed and ate their dog. A dog without owners, however, can be euthanized (which many vegans are okay with, and which People For the Ethical Treatment of Animals actively perpetrates). A pig would be protected if she was someone’s pet, but not if her only connection to a moral agent was the farmer who wanted to sell her as food.

So if babies don’t have direct rights but we have to respect the rights of the parents who love their babies, what about parents who have a twisted taste for exotic cuisine and don’t love their babies? Should we let them raise and kill their babies for food since they are the only moral agents who could be harmed by the death of their babies?

Though this scenario could arise in real life, most parents don’t want to eat their babies because that’s not why people have kids. They have kids because they want to raise them and see them grow up — they want people who approximate their looks and thinking to live on after they die. Still, it is possible for parents to want to eat their babies or intellectually impaired offspring, so if we’re going to insist on consistency, then we have to say yes, it’s okay for parents to eat their babies because babies (like dogs and pigs) do not have rights — it is only a direct connection to moral agents that gives them protections.

But there’s still no God, right? So why this obsession with consistency? Without a logic-keen deity dropping lightning bolts on us for inconsistently eating animals but not letting parents eat their babies, what’s stopping us from protecting babies from their nihilistic gourmand parents at the same time we eat a calf liver? If consistency compels us to give up all animal products if we are to have any morality at all, yet we like both morality and eating animal products, why not lose the consistency? Because we’re afraid this would give us seven years bad luck? 

The mutual obligations and protections that come from a rights exchange between humans helps all of us (except for sociopaths who feel the need to kill humans to avoid crushing boredom, but screw ‘em). It is to our advantage to protect our babies and other humans. We lose nothing by saying, “Don’t kill babies for food.” But we lose a lot by saying, “Don’t kill animals for food.” And since humans create morality, what possible reason could we have to use morality to make life worse for all of us? 

This is the part where vegans say that if it’s okay for us to exclude animals from our moral sphere if that benefits us, then white people can do the same with black people, men can do the same with women and straights can do the same with gays. The long history and present cases of groups of humans using a selfish approach to morality against other humans confirms that yes, they can and will do this.

Some vegans act like anti-speciesism is a buffer protecting us from slipping into oppression against humans, but the issues aren’t inevitably intertwined. Being anti-speciesism might mean you are the sort of person who is less likely to be racist, sexist or homophobic, but anti-specisism does not make racism, sexism or homophobia impossible. There are plenty of openly speciesist anti-racists, just as Morrisey demonstrates the opposite, that it’s possible to be pro-animal and racist. And as PETA shows, being against speciesism is no guarantee of being anti-sexism. The best way to stop racism, sexism and homophobia is to fight those things. Eating tempeh has nothing to do with protecting the rights of moral agents.

One reason the Holocaust caused so many people to lose their faith was that it seemed to show that morality was not ingrained in the cosmos. The Nazis lost, but not because the earth opened up and swallowed them all — it was other humans operating under a competing moral code that stopped them. Nazi Germany made it obvious that if most of the world chose to gang up on one group and obliterate or enslave them, there would be nothing to stop them. (And vegans can see that this is what’s happening to animals now.)

Peter Singer’s inability to answer the question and admit that in a Godless universe humans invent morality could have been an honest mistake, or it might have been a squeamishness at acknowledging the subjectiveness of morality. The weird contradiction at the heart of an atheistic veganism is that it imposes a stricter ethical code in a world with nothing to stop us from doing what we want than most religions do in a world where God is watching our every move and might send us to hell for behaving badly.

Atheist vegans want the illusion of an objective moral code like religions have, but without God. It’s just not possible. A subjective, human-contrived morality is an intimidating thing, but with no God, that’s what we have to work with. You can’t say morality is not coded into the universe and then pretend that morality rules us and not the other way around. Yet vegans try anyway, insisting on consistency as the objective and unalterable basis of morality — we merely have to start with a basic, agreed-upon moral law (something akin to The Golden Rule), let everything else logically follow from that and then never tinker with any aspect of it even in the spots where this consistent morality scheme makes the lives of all humans worse.

I think it’s better to admit that morality is a subjective human construct and do the best we can to make sure it used for the equal benefit of all humans. If Peter Singer says this gives me seven years bad luck, so be it.

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“The Meat Eaters” Exposes More Problems in the Suffering Reduction Argument For Veganism

In “The Meat Eaters,” Jeff McMahan argues that if we care about animal suffering enough to stop being predators ourselves, we should try to remove predation from nature too:

Many thousands of animal species either have been or are being driven to extinction as a side effect of our activities.  Knowing this, we have thus far been largely unwilling even to moderate our rapacity to mitigate these effects.  If, however, we were to become more amenable to exercising restraint, it is conceivable that we could do so in a selective manner, favoring the survival of some species over others.  The question might then arise whether to modify our activities in ways that would favor the survival of herbivorous rather than carnivorous species.

Anticipating that one of the objections to his plan will be “it’s wrong to kill off a species,” McMahan points out that we make species go extinct all the time as a side-effect of our existence. Since killing animals is inevitable, shouldn’t we try to aim for carnivores if we can?

But how could we ever control the species of animal that we accidentally or even intentionally kill as a byproduct of our activities? He isn’t talking about animals we hunt; he’s talking about animals we kill for agriculture and civilization. It makes no sense to say we could ever choose which animals get in the way of those things and thus must die. Would we move all the herbivores out of our fields and forests and put lions there instead, and then run over lions with our wheat threshers or shoot them for prowling our orchards?

It doesn’t matter. McMahan isn’t concerned with practicalities. He just wants to pose a philosophical question: is suffering reduction or the inherent value of a species more important? Should we protect the lion because there’s something worthwhile about lions existing? Or is this outweighed by the terror and pain that lions cause, which would mean we should get rid of lions to make the world a less brutal, painful place? McMahan believes that since species have come and gone throughout the world’s history, it doesn’t make sense to say that the exact species that are alive now are the right ones and should never change. Therefore, goodbye lions.

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How the Ethical Argument for Veganism Fails and One Possible Way to Fix It

Last month I interviewed Jack Norris of Vegan Outreach. I began the interview with this quote from Matt Ball, the co-founder of that group:

Ultimately, the bottom line is: Reduce Suffering. Everything has to answer to this. I can’t emphasize this enough: the only thing that matters is to reduce suffering. If you accept this as the What, the next question is, How? At this time, in this country, we choose to promote veganism. However, veganism is not an end in and of itself. We don’t promote veganism because ‘veganism is good.’ Veganism is merely a tool to reduce suffering.

“The Vegan Shuffle”

Reading that speech by Matt Ball made me wonder why Vegan Outreach was so intent on promoting veganism. If their only concern was suffering reduction, what about non-vegan ways to reduce suffering (eating eggs from rescued hens, eating bivalves, eating insects), some of which reduce suffering more than veganism? So I asked Norris about this. Here was his response:

We want a way to reduce suffering that is sustainable. I have no problem with people eating eggs from rescued hens, but that’s not a realistic model to promote for most people. I don’t think bivalves are conscious of suffering, but there would be environmental concerns with promoting bivalve-based diets for everyone. If someone has a hard time being vegan and eating bivalves does the trick for them, I would have no qualms.

I just blogged about some researchers who think insects might be able to feel pain. I doubt that most species of insects can suffer and if it came between someone eating chickens or insects, my vote would definitely be for them to eat the insects.

It’s hard for me to see how hunting mammals or birds can result in less suffering than eating vegan. I tend to think that for many species, like those who live in packs or who are monogamous, you cause indirect suffering to the animals who are left behind – possibly even more than to the animals you kill.

As society evolves toward being more concerned about the suffering of animals, plant farming will be done in a way that harms as few animals as possible.

One thing to take from this response is that veganism is the easiest way to reduce suffering. It is not the only way to reduce suffering, and it may not necessarily even be the best way (though Norris didn’t grant that), but it’s the simplest message to convey and for people to follow, so it should lead to the greatest suffering reduction overall.

Extrapolating from that, it’s not that each of us must reduce suffering to the maximum amount we possibly can, since that would require suicide (which Norris rejects as a necessity), freeganism (eating only foods that would otherwise go to waste), not having kids or any other option that reduces suffering more than the consumer veganism that vegans promote.

This logic suggests we have no obligation to be vegan. For one thing, there are better ways than veganism for individuals to reduce suffering (freeganism being an indisputable case of this). Furthermore, because there are these better ways and vegans still insist that giving up animal products is enough, this shows that it is okay to reduce suffering to some extent without going all the way. The only obligation is to cause less suffering than the maximum amount of suffering you could cause. You don’t even need to reduce suffering as much as vegans do, then, because the suffering reduction level that satisfies them is arbitrary, since they haven’t reduced it to the max.

So hunting is okay, right? That causes less harm than factory farming, and it might even reduce suffering more than veganism if you are hunting an overpopulated species or an invasive species that is destroying the ecosystem and killing other animals. Not so fast. Norris countered this sort of thinking (though not this example in particular) by saying:

While suffering matters more to me than rights, I do view many species of animals as having rights. Most people agree that humans have a right to life, and the species of an individual should not matter in this regard, only that individual’s characteristics. So if we had the ability to breed humans to have awareness similar to pigs and raise them and kill them humanely, but we do not do so because we think it would violate their rights, then we should not be breeding and killing pigs.

So now it’s not just suffering reduction, it’s that animals have rights. But if it’s wrong to kill an animal because it has rights, how do we justify the deaths of animals in plant agriculture? Not only are animals accidentally killed in the production of crops (ground up by wheat threshers, poisoned from pesticide runoff, or unable to survive because their habitat has been destroyed), they are intentionally killed as well. “Pest” animals are poisoned and shot to protect crops. What happened to their sentience, the basis of their rights? Once they got in our way, they stopped having interests and a capacity for pain?

Vegans cannot claim self defense (one justification they give for killing animals), because these are mostly herbivorous creatures who pose no direct threat to humans. There’s not even immediate survival at stake, as in someone trapped on an island with no edible food other than fish, another life-or-death scenario that vegans say makes eating meat okay. If we believe that animals have rights, killing them for eating or threatening to eat crops constitutes capital punishment for petty theft or even just suspicion of future petty theft, which is an outrageous travesty of justice.

Only a speciesist would differentiate between killing an animal for eating crops and killing a human for doing the same, but most of us would agree that it is wrong to kill a hungry human for getting too close to somebody’s garden or farm. On top of that, a crop-thieving human knows they’re committing a crime and can thus be seen as guilty, unlike animals who don’t grasp our concept of property rights. What, then, makes it okay to kill an animal merely for taking food or even just getting too close to our food, if that animal has the same basic right to life that we do?

I asked Norris a question related to this. Why did Vegan Outreach call vegan foods “cruelty free,” when there is inevitably accidental and intentional death to animals involved in these foods? The gist of his response was that it is most likely the case that vegans cause less harm than even humane meat eaters. In other words, forget about animal rights now, because veganism is about harm reduction again.

Okay, but what if I could reduce harm more by hunting invasive Asian carp than by being vegan? Nope, say vegans (not Norris specifically—I didn’t think to press this line of questioning further), it’s wrong to kill Asian carp because now animals have regained their rights.

You could call this “the vegan shuffle.” It is impossible to insist on consumer veganism with a consistent rights argument. And it is impossible to insist on consumer veganism with a suffering reduction argument. That’s why vegans flip-flop between the two until they manage to arrive at the conclusion of veganism.

Problems with the rights basis for veganism

Animal rights runs into trouble as soon as vegans have to ignore the very rights they supposedly champion. The animal rights violations that result from crop production are the most obvious instances of this. Purchasing vegan foods contributes to the deaths of animals. Even vegans admit this. There are a few ways they try to get around this conundrum:

1. These rights violations are “necessary.” It is impossible to eat without killing animals, and we need to eat something, therefore it is okay to kill animals for crops. This begs the question. If it’s okay to kill animals if you must do so in order to eat, why is it okay to kill animals so we can eat vegetables, but it is not okay to kill animals so we can eat meat?

“Humans have a biological need for vegetables but not for meat,” vegans might counter. A debatable claim, but even if we grant it, it doesn’t remedy the frivolousness of the distinction since there is no human biological requirement for any one specific food we might be protecting from animals. It may not be necessary to eat beef, as vegans prove, but neither is it necessary to eat wheat, as celiacs prove, or many fruits and vegetables, as those with fructose malabsorption prove.

Yes, food is necessary. But since everyone is able to cut something out of their diets, indeed some must because of allergies or other dietary restrictions, there is no particular food that humans absolutely have to eat out of necessity. It is a non sequitur, then, to say that corn is necessary and deer steak is not, since both are foods. Which means that if necessity is a justification for violating animal rights, and food is considered necessary, this should apply to all foods, not just vegan foods.

This forces the vegan out of rights and into a suffering reduction argument (there is less suffering when you kill animals for vegetables than for their meat). Therefore, this doesn’t redeem the rights argument.

2. The intent/accident argument. The intent argument states that yes, you must kill animals in order to eat vegetables, but it’s okay for animals to die due to the destruction of their habitats, pesticide runoff into the water, or getting caught in harvesting machines as long as those deaths are not our intended end.

Unfortunately, this works for meat eaters too. Meat eaters don’t necessarily want to kill animals. It just so happens that you must kill animals in order to eat meat. Since meat is the intended end, not the killing of animals, it is okay to eat meat.

A vegan might argue with this by saying, well, at least the deaths of animals in vegan agriculture are accidental, whereas you must purposely kill an animal to get meat. They might illustrate this point by distinguishing between intentionally stabbing someone to death and accidentally hitting someone with your car. A problem with this is this is that yes, the intentional murder is worse, but involuntary manslaughter is a crime too. So why is involuntary manslaughter an offense when committed against a human, but involuntary animalslaughter is morally neutral? That only makes sense if you believe that the death of an animal matters less than the death of a human, a speciesist belief that allows for the possibility of willful animal slaughter.

From an animal rights based perspective, mowing over animals with your wheat thresher is no different than falling asleep at the wheel of your car and plowing into a crowd of people. Even worse, possibly, because the farmer knows animals are going to be killed and proceeds anyway. What if a farmer saw humans in the wheat field she was about to harvest? Would we have no problem with her harvesting this wheat, knowing that a lot of humans were going to die? Would this not be at least somewhat of a rights violation?

If we believe that animals have rights, the intent argument makes no sense because it implies that animals have the same rights we do as far as not being murdered, but for some reason their rights go away when it comes to accidental deaths. If we are going to be so inconsistent with the rights of animals, what keeps us from killing them for food?

Except the intent argument doesn’t even give animals the same rights as humans as far as not being murdered, because there is still the direct, intentional, non-accidental killing of animals in agricultural production to contend with -– Farmers exterminate animals that pose a threat to their crops. Somehow vegans think this is okay as long as humans aren’t eating those animals. Yet these killings are not motivated by self-defense or even immediate survival and would be seen as repugnant if humans were the targeted food thieves.

So why be more strict with animals than we would be with humans, especially since the hungry animals don’t even realize they’ve committed a crime?

Sometimes in Brazil, ranchers and farmers who want to develop the Amazon will kill an entire tribe that lives on land they want to use. To most people this seems like a clear and indefensible rights violation. But this is exactly what happens to animals whenever anybody develops new land. If animals have rights, there is no way to justify extending agriculture unless you manage to safely relocate all the animals, which is impossible. The only way vegans can justify these deaths is reverting back to a harm reduction argument (fewer animals suffer and die if we eat vegetables rather than meat). So rights falters yet again.

3. “In the more enlightened future, when most people are vegan, it will be possible to avoid all or most animal deaths in crop production. But for now, since it’s too difficult for me to live up to my own high standards, I can violate the same rights that I criticize you for violating.” This is nothing but a confession to immorality and hypocrisy with a flippant rationalization tacked on. And it’s another argument that works for non-vegans too.

Let’s say that I don’t like tofu, seitan or tempeh. I often find grains and beans difficult to digest—if brown rice is slightly undercooked it doesn’t break down at all and even peanuts make me gassy. I may (hypothetically) think it’s wrong to kill animals, but animal products are the only significant protein sources that work for me, and I feel weak if I don’t get enough protein. Therefore, it’s too hard for me to thrive on a vegan diet. Maybe it will be easier in the future for me to be moral once there is lab-grown meat. For now it’s okay for me to eat animals, though, because lab grown meat doesn’t exist yet.

To use a slavery comparison, since vegans always appreciate a good slavery analogy, a slave master might have said that he knows slavery is wrong and would like to stop, he really would. But it’s too hard to do all that work by himself, and he can’t afford to pay for workers. Maybe technology will make slaves obsolete one day. But for now, with society being so racist and technology being so rudimentary, it’s too hard to be moral, so it’s okay for him to go on owning slaves. Also, he gets to call other slave owners immoral rights violators because they don’t even wish for the possibility of giving up their slaves.

As this line of argument is an admission from vegans that they are rights violators, this does nothing to redeem the rights argument. Just because it seems like veganism theoretically could potentially avoid violating rights (this new way of growing plants in China gives some idea of how this might happen) doesn’t mean anything if it violates rights in actuality. Meat eating could potentially not violate rights as well, thanks to the prospect of test tube meat. Does that make eating meat today okay too?

4. “Nobody claimed veganism was perfect, so why critique veganism for violating rights and causing harm?” This would be like a human rights advocate murdering someone or accidentally running over someone and then saying “Well, nobody said human rights are perfect. At least I kill fewer humans than some other people I know.” This is another appeal to harm reduction and makes no sense from a rights perspective.

5. Kind of a side issue: most vegans are okay with neutering, spaying or even euthanizing animals in some situations. This only makes sense from a harm reduction rather than a rights perspective, since animals cannot consent to any of these… alterations. And it seems obvious that animals have an interest in having sex, which spaying and neutering violates.

6. An ultra-strict freegan lifestyle might be a way to live without infringing on animal rights (as long as you exclude insects), but this can’t work for the entire world, since freegans rely on the waste of people who don’t respect animal rights. A world of freegans would have to stop being freegan and figure something else out. Freeganism is still an option for individuals in a world with waste (in other words, it will always be an option), but freegans should be under no delusion that this is an actual solution, or that they aren’t in some way benefitting from rights violations.

A note on “the argument from marginal cases”

This is the argument that if we give human babies and the mentally handicapped rights, then we must give rights to animals too, since the only possible basis for rights for humans with no capacity for morality (save for speciesism, a no-no) is sentience, which animals also have.

This is a major foundation of the argument for animal rights. But since giving consistent rights to animals is unworkable, the result of this argument is to take away rights from humans and mandate cannibalism of babies and the mentally impaired in order to avoid speciesism. So this argument doesn’t help veganism either.

Problems with suffering reduction as a basis for veganism

Too bad suffering reduction doesn’t work as a justification for veganism as a minimum standard of decency either. One flaw is that if suffering is your whipping boy, this permits the slaughtering of animals so long as it is painless or nearly painless. For instance, it is possible to instantaneously knock a pig unconscious by hitting it on the head with the butt of an ax, and then drain it of blood while it is knocked out. If suffering is all you’re worried about, isn’t this okay? A vegan might say, “What about the emotional pain of the pigs left behind who miss their friend?” Okay, then, painlessly kill them too.

Naturally vegans try to get around this by saying, “Wait, you can’t do that because it’s not suffering that matters but animal rights.”

But the main problem is that veganism is not the only or even the best way to reduce suffering. And since vegans don’t feel a moral obligation to take suffering reduction to its logical conclusion (suicide, or, to be less demanding, possibly freeganism), that means any spot we pick on the harm reduction continuum will be arbitrary. If vegans don’t have an obligation to be freegan, since there is no need to maximize harm reduction, then vegetarians don’t need to be vegan, humane meat eaters don’t need to be vegetarian, and so on. Even factory farm meat eaters might be okay if they’re at least not torturing humans. Quit veal and you’ve satisfied the vague notion of “suffering reduction,” even if you haven’t satisfied vegans.

It’s impossible to measure the suffering-related consequences of all of our actions, which makes any look at suffering reduction unscientific (another problem with using it as a guide). But based on some reasonable guesses, here are some ways to reduce suffering more than veganism:

Eating elevation-raised bivalves instead of grains. Most bivalves have no central nervous system and thus are probably not conscious of pain. If they do experience pain, then it is through some mechanism we don’t fully understand, and it would be equally possible for plants to feel pain. Ethically, then, eating bivalves is at least as good as eating plants. Better, really, because if farmed properly, these bivalves can actually be good for the environment by improving the quality of their water. Also, if raised in elevated nets, you don’t have to scrape up the sea floor to get them.

Planting, growing and harvesting grains can lead to the deaths of mammals, insects (which have brains and thus might be sentient) and fish (pesticide runoff or using fish habitats to irrigate crops), while farming oysters mainly leads to the death of non-sentient oysters and possibly some fish. Overall, with oysters, fewer sentient beings are harmed.

Also, grains don’t provide much that vegetables and fruits don’t already offer. Bivalves, on the other hand, contain omega-3s, vitamin D and B12, nutrients that vegans typically have to supplement. Someone eating vegan except for bivalves could potentially cut out supplements and supplemented processed foods entirely; not buying nutrient extracts in plastic bottles is another way this diet would cause less harm than veganism.

If vegans are eating grains instead of oysters, then, they are not reducing harm as much as they could be.

To this vegans either say “Fine, whatever, but oysters are gross,” or they say that oysters have rights by virtue of being animals, and even if it causes less suffering overall to eat them, it is inherently wrong to kill them. So either they admit that veganism is not the only way, or they abandon harm reduction and go back to rights.

Killing destructive or overpopulated animals for the overall good of animals and humans. Animals dying slowly of starvation suffer more than animals who are shot and die more quickly. Animal populations are sometimes manipulated to create this overpopulation (humans killing the predator animals to leave more prey for themselves, for instance), but many times hunting will lead to less suffering than not hunting would. This is the basis of Jackson Landers’ “locavore hunting,” which strives to kill animals as painlessly as possible, and in a way that reduces suffering for the surviving animals, thus providing nutritious food for humans with minimal impact.

This is even more clear-cut when there is an invasive species that is harming the ecosystem and killing other (sometimes endangered) creatures. Feral pigs are one example. While a vegan individual attempts to inch toward suffering neutrality, actively hunting harmful animals manages to go further and be a net gain for the world.

But even if this reduces suffering for sentient beings overall, vegans object that the rights of the individual invasive or overpopulated animal are being violated. Therefore, it’s time to abandon suffering reduction in favor of rights again.

Not having kids. There is nothing non-vegan about spawning nine screaming, suffering causing offspring. Even if you raise these kids as vegans, there’s a chance they won’t all stay vegans for their entire lives. And then what about their kids? No doubt a childless meat eater will have less of an impact than a vegan who has a couple of kids who grow up to be meat eaters. Since living as a vegan has an impact too, it’s even conceivable that the childless meat eater might cause less harm than a vegan who has a single vegan kid who stays vegan for life. Yet the childless meat eater is still blameworthy because they eat meat while the vegan with nine kids, some of whom are meat eaters, is not.

Eating insects instead of grains. Even if insects do suffer, eating insects could still cause less suffering overall than eating grains. You have to kill insects to eat them, but you have to kill insects and mammals to raise crops.

This distinction may not always exist if the insects are farmed. You have to feed insects, so if you grow grains to feed insects, you may not have accomplished much. However, it is easy for individuals to efficiently raise insects themselves, with scraps of food waste. And some insects eat substances that humans cannot, such as wood. Eating wild insects certainly reduces suffering more than veganism, and eating farmed insects could as well.

And like bivalves, insects are nutrient dense, containing the vitamins and minerals that are often lacking in a vegan diet. Someone who is vegan except insects, then, could avoid packaged supplements and processed supplemented food, another way they would be decreasing harm further than as a consumer vegan.

To this vegans either say “fine, whatever, but insects are gross” or they say that insects have rights and even if it causes more suffering to avoid eating them, it is a rights violation to intentionally eat them. So either they admit that veganism is not the only way, or they abandon harm reduction and go back to rights.

How vegans attempt to salvage the harm reduction basis

The main way vegans get around the fact that veganism is not the best way to reduce harm, besides reverting back to rights, is to say that veganism is the most practical way to reduce suffering, even if it’s not the ultimate ideal.

All the ex-vegans who really did try makes me skeptical that this is true. Putting that aside, this argument is fine for explaining why Vegan Outreach and other groups choose to promote veganism, but it cannot explain why an individual should choose veganism over freeganism, locavore hunting, insect eating or bivalveganism if they were interested in reducing harm. And it doesn’t explain how anyone can claim veganism is the mandatory starting place for morality — the “moral baseline” — and criticize others for reducing harm only an arbitrary amount when vegans themselves only reduce harm by an arbitrary amount.

Another tactic to salvage harm reduction, just like with rights, is to insist that the amount of suffering caused by veganism (whatever that may be) is “necessary” whereas any amount of suffering over that is “unnecessary.” Meanwhile, any amount of suffering that is less than what veganism causes constitutes going above and beyond – praiseworthy but not obligatory. Yet there is no cogent explanation for why the harm that consumer veganism causes is necessary if it’s possible to cause even less harm and survive, while any harm above the level of consumer veganism is unnecessary.

Vegans plant themselves at this arbitrary point in the harm reduction continuum and proclaim that everyone causing more harm than them is acting improperly, and everyone causing less is being better than they have to (unless vegans deem that those causing less harm are violating rights, such as those hunting invasive species, in which case vegans are still superior while causing more harm). The only way vegans can pull this off is by mixing and matching rights and suffering reduction arguments until they arrive at the answer of consumer veganism.

Here’s what this rights/suffering reduction mashup might look like in chart form:

Veganism on Harm and Rights

As much as vegans claim to love moral and logical consistency, this chart is a philosophical catastrophe. Sure, you can argue with my placement of the various diets, since it’s impossible to truly gauge the suffering caused by what we do, but that’s not my fault – vegans are the ones who settled on amorphous “suffering reduction” as one of their guiding principles.

One of the bigger problems I see with this chart is that there is no rationale for deeming harm “necessary” once we hit consumer veganism, since there are ways to reduce suffering more. If the argument is that it’s too much of a hassle to reduce suffering more than veganism does, vegans are guilty of the same ethical compromise they criticize in omnivores (basing diet choices on taste, habit, convenience or tradition rather than morals). Starting “necessary suffering” at veganism is a cheap ploy that attempts to hide that veganism is just a spot on a line of harm reduction and that from a suffering perspective the choice of veganism is arbitrary.

Nor is it clear why invasive species hunters, locavore hunters and the primatavist hunter-gatherers are guilty of rights violations while vegans are not, even though animals must be killed for consumer veganism too. If this is because it is okay to contribute to animal death indirectly, but not to kill an animal yourself, that justifies any diet where you buy your dead animals rather than killing them personally. If this is because of intent/accident/etc., it becomes a suffering reduction argument, which doesn’t help because veganism reduces suffering less.

What is to be Done, Veganism?

Contrary to what Vegan Outreach may claim, veganism is not the easiest way to reduce suffering in your diet. If your principle is “reduce suffering,” all you need to do is say “no thanks” to a single Slim Jim once in your life and you’ve accomplished your goal. If your principle is “Reduce suffering to the maximum amount possible,” you need to kill yourself or at least go freegan. If your principle is “reduce suffering to the exact level that consumer veganism does,” then you better not judge someone whose principle is “reduce suffering to the exact level that turning down a single Slim Jim does.”

And if your principle is “don’t violate animal rights,” and you give animals a right to life, you’ve made it impossible to adhere to your own beliefs unless you come up with exceptions that are designed to let veganism and only veganism off the hook for rights violations.

Why are vegans so attached to this lifestyle that is not the best way to achieve what they say they want to achieve anyway? The reason appears to be mostly symbolic – it seems like veganism shouldn’t harm animals, even if it really does. If it were possible for there to be a no harm diet, it would look like veganism: that much is true. The thing is, a no harm diet is not possible, and to treat veganism symbolically as one obscures this reality.

This is why vegans tend to focus on “what is seen” (no meat on their plates) and gloss over “what is unseen” (all the animals that died anyway). If you call them out on this, they respond with the suffering reduction/rights shuffle, but this is a smokescreen to mask that veganism is not really what vegans wish it could be –- a diet that causes no harm.

Recently vegans have been retreating from the health and environmental arguments for veganism and zeroing in on ethics as the only consistent argument for veganism. But what do they mean when they say they are “vegan for ethical reasons”?

In most cases they mean that it feels wrong to them to hurt animals. But since “I like animals and it pains me to see them tortured and killed” fails to convince anyone who doesn’t feel much for animals, and it doesn’t explain what to do about the less apparent animal deaths that don’t take place in slaughter houses, vegans feel the need to logically “prove” that slaughtering animals is wrong and these less apparent animal deaths are not. And they accomplish this through a rights/suffering reduction tag team that creates the illusion that vegans have an answer for everything, when really they just keep changing the rules and distracting you from problems in their previous argument that they’ve now temporarily abandoned – only to be picked up again when the new argument stops working.

This cannot form the foundation of a coherent, meaningful philosophy.

But might there be a consistent principle that actually would justify veganism?

Anti-exploitation: the only coherent basis for veganism?

Vegans kill animals and cause animal suffering, which makes it silly for them to criticize others for killing animals and causing animal suffering. But there is one thing that veganism doesn’t—or at least potentially doesn’t—do: exploit animals. If vegans were to single animal exploitation out as the motivation behind their cause, they just might be able to make a case that isn’t contradicted by their own actions. This would, however, change a few things.

By exploiting animals, I mean breeding, confining and raising them for your own ends. Having a rescue pet isn’t exploitation, but getting your cow pregnant so you can take her milk is. Because nonhuman animals cannot formally consent, it is not possible to prove that any demanding arrangement we have with them is mutually agreed upon, so any use we get out of them while they are alive could be considered exploitation. I cannot see how veganism could ever avoid killing animals or causing animal suffering, but vegans theoretically could avoid animal exploitation.

Currently they don’t because most of them buy crops that are fertilized with animal manure. But if they figure out a way around this through effective veganic fertilizer or using human manure, they could honestly claim to have an animal-exploitation-free diet, as long as humans weren’t exploited either. The downside is (at least for vegans who like to think they have the only possible moral diet), they wouldn’t be alone.

If it’s animal exploitation rather than animal suffering and death that is the problem, this means it’s okay to kill animals and even cause animal suffering. No matter what, vegans have to be okay with killing animals and causing animal suffering — since vegans kill animals and cause animal suffering — but if they were to openly excuse these harms and base veganism on an objection to exploitation, they would have no way to criticize other lifestyles that cause death and suffering but don’t rely on animal exploitation, such as locavore hunting, invasive species hunting, or eating wild-caught fish or insects.

Could a vegan ever accept that eating wild-caught salmon sashimi might be okay? The vegan instinct here is to rage “That’s harming the environment and killing fish!” Yes, but guess what the agriculture that vegans support does – harms the environment and kills fish. “But eating fish does that even more!” Then why aren’t you freegan or dead? If vegans stuck to exploitation as the villain and let us have our wild-caught Portuguese sardines, they could avoid these contradictions.

There just appears to be no consistent moral basis for veganism that excludes all alternatives that include animal products. If vegans want to base their philosophy on a solid principle instead of a misleading ethical shell game, they will have to accept the validity of other lifestyles. Do vegans really need veganism to be the sole valid lifestyle, anyway?

Besides, an anti-exploitation veganism will mostly be accepting these meaty alternatives as a technicality. Even the most principled invasive species hunter is unlikely to care if animal manure fertilized their crops.

Here is what a chart of exploiting diets and non-exploiting diets might look like. The diets are in no particular order within their categories because they either exploit sentient beings or they don’t:

Zero/Exploitation Diets

Why vegans should like the anti-exploitation basis for veganism

* This resolves the vegan inconsistency over animals accidentally and intentionally killed in agriculture. As long as these animals are not exploited, these harms are justifiable. It also addresses the problem that veganism is not the only or the best way to reduce suffering. Since suffering reduction is not the goal, it doesn’t have to be.

* Factory farming and most of the ways that people get animal products currently are still forbidden, as is animal testing and bestiality.

* Zoos, circuses and rodeos aren’t allowed either.

* Wool still belongs to the sheep and animal skins are only okay if from wild-hunted animals.

* Dairy is out unless it is from human milk or freegan, so vegans still get to hate vegetarians.

* Vegans no longer have to be pro-life to be consistent. Abortion may harm sentient beings but it isn’t exploiting anything, so rock on.

* With rights and suffering as the basis of veganism, suicide is the logical conclusion because that is the best way to reduce animal suffering and the only way to avoid infringing on animal rights. Under that paradigm, the best vegan is one who was never born. With exploitation, this is no longer the case. You either exploit animals or you don’t, so there is no self-destructive race to making your overall impact as minimal as possible.

* Reducing your participation in a wrong is not as satisfying as opting out of a wrong entirely. If the wrong is suffering or animal rights violations, vegans are doomed to be mere reducers like the rest of us. If the wrong is animal exploitation, vegans at least have hope of completely washing their hands of it. This is especially true for vegans who are less concerned with the environment, since that allows chemical agriculture.

* Vegans could still make slavery comparisons. However, they would have to lose the Holocaust analogies. Those never worked anyway because the Holocaust was an attempt to wipe out groups whereas animal farmers perpetually replace the animals they kill. If you must apply a Holocaust analogy to animals, a better one would be vegetable agriculture or letting invasive species run rampant, both of which kill animals without replacing them, sometimes to the point of extinction.

* Ending sentient being exploitation gives vegans a more defined goal. Instead of vaguely saying “Future people will figure out how to not kill animals,” vegans could focus on something tangible — a workable veganic fertilizer or “green manure,” a system for collecting and utilizing human manure, or an improved artificial fertilizer.

* It kind of seems like exploitation is what vegans hate the most anyway. That’s basically what they mean when they say, “There is more suffering in a glass of milk than in a steak.” But they should say, “There is more exploitation in a glass of milk than in a steak” because if they want to play the suffering game, there is more suffering in a soy protein burger than in a plate of oysters.

Why vegans might not like the anti-exploitation basis

* Vegans who go by exploitation can no longer say “No animal products ever, no matter what, sorry world.” But the only way they are able to say that now is by somehow attributing virtue to killing animals but not eating them, because that is essentially what consumer veganism does.

* Mainly because of the manure issue, most vegans feast off exploitation along with the rest of us. Knowing this, they would have to admit that they do not live up to their own ideals. But they do not live up to their own ideals under animal rights, nor can they ever. At least this ideal could potentially be reached.

* Vegans would have to articulate why it is okay to kill animals accidentally and intentionally but not to exploit them. “Because it’s impossible not to kill animals” is a practical issue, not a moral argument.

* They would also have to explain why it’s okay to kill animals but not to kill humans. They have to do this now anyway, if they wouldn’t approve of shooting humans for eating crops or legalizing involuntary manslaughter. (And if they would approve of killing humans to take their land for agriculture, why do they have all this compassion for animals?) The only out I see for vegans here is, “Okay, we admit it, we’re speciesists too.” But vegans don’t want to say that.

* This prioritizes chemical fertilization over organic, which would strike a lot of people as  backwards. However, eco-minded anti-exploitation vegans would be motivated to perfect organic alternatives to animal manure.

* Unless veganic farming ever gets popular, it would be virtually impossible for a consistent anti-exploitation vegan to ever eat out. Then again, if animal rights vegans were consistent, they wouldn’t eat at all.

* Anti-animal exploitation is not always as intuitive as anti-animal killing. Vegans better get used to defensive exploiters asking, “I get why you’re against factory farming, but why manure?”

* Vegans could no longer see a piece of meat on a plate and immediately conclude that something immoral transpired. In fact, vegetables at an organic restaurant would be more suspect than a whole fish at a small restaurant in a coastal town. (Of course vegans are only able to see meat as automatically immoral now because they overlook or excuse the animal death and suffering involved in their plant foods.)

* There are fewer people for vegans to hate, especially if organic vegans have to concede to being exploiters too. Really, though, this is an advantage, since most vegans don’t enjoy thinking everyone is evil.

* There is no way to definitively prove that animal exploitation is inherently, objectively wrong. But that’s a hurdle for all moral beliefs.

Conclusion

There may be irresolvable problems with the anti-exploitation basis that I haven’t considered yet (I just started thinking about this two days ago). That’s fine. I don’t have a problem with the exploitation of nonhuman animals, so I am not personally promoting this model. I only bring all this up because as far as I can tell, neither suffering reduction nor rights work as a consistent moral basis for veganism, and anti-exploitation is the only thing I’ve thought of that might.

However, even if anti-exploitation does turn out to be stronger than rights/suffering reduction, it only makes sense to adopt this basis if it honestly is your reason for being vegan. If you’re okay with eating an egg from a rescue hen or wearing a wool shirt from a sheep you know was treated well, you might not be against animal exploitation. Why pretend to be against the use of animal manure or honey just for the sake of logical consistency? If you start with veganism and then work backward, testing all the ways you can think of to defend that, I have to wonder why you are so stuck on this self-denying lifestyle if you’re not even sure why you follow it.

For now, if vegans go with the anti-exploitation argument, we are all exploiters and vegans will have to stop thinking of themselves as blameless and the rest of us as immoral. Talk to us when you stop exploiting animals for their shit, vegans, and maybe we’ll invite you to hang out with us as we hunt some feral pigs. Or if you’d prefer to stick with a jury-rigged combo of rights and suffering reduction, that’s fine too, but don’t fault anyone else for not committing to your arbitrary, inconsistent ethical system.

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