T. Colin Campbell and ex-vegan raw foodist Denise Minger are still struggling to reach an agreement over Campbell’s conclusions in The China Study. Now Campbell has posted a response to Denise’s response to his response to her critique. And T.’s son T. Jr. has chimed in too.
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(Ex-?)Vegan abolitionist Gary L. Francione on May 31, 2010:
Hey, all: I am taking a leave of absence from Twitter while I do some other projects. Keep visiting www.abolitionistapproach.com. Go vegan.
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Excuse me, a leave of absence from Twitter? Is it really so difficult to copy and paste 140-character references to the “moral schizophrenia” of eating meat now and again? Francione’s last tweet implied that he would keep his followers informed of any breaking anti-speciesism news through his blog, but he hasn’t posted a new entry since May 2. Could that be because Francione hasn’t had any new anti-speciesism insights to relay?
And if he hasn’t, is that because Francione has finally embraced who he really is — a meat-starved, cheese craving, human-idolizing speciesist? The documentary Outrageexplores politicians who enact anti-gay policies but are secretly gay themselves. Is Francione a self-hating speciesist who makes a big public show of anti-speciesism to hide the truth? Might “other projects” include a burger tour of the tri-state area perchance?
It may seem like a leap to assume all this from Francione’s silence, but the fact is Francione’s rigid anti-speciesism veneer was starting to crack even before that last tweet. Let’s examine some earlier tweets that were quite telling in retrospect:
Now here’s smart thinking. Meat causes cancer so let’s keep eating it but reduce the risk by using spices. http://bit.ly/bL9VED
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Yep, that was Francione telling his followers to eat meat as long as it was covered in spices. He was being sarcastic, true, but Francione damn well knows that his abolitionist devotees take everything he says literally and believe it unquestioningly. He knew the consequences of that tweet — abolitionists eating spicy meat — and he tweeted it anyway. Probably to assuage the guilt he felt over indulging his own latent omnivorism.
vegannovice Per-capita meat consumption in the United States has increased by 8 percent since 1970 http://bit.ly/93wJeD
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This is a retweet, but it gives a good indication of how Francione was feeling about his own efforts, and the efforts of anti-speciesists in general: beyond useless, to the point of counter-productive. Peter Singer’s Animal Liberation was published in 1975 and Francione joined the chorus of voices for the voiceless in 1984. Nevertheless, we eat more meat than ever. How do you want to divide the blame, Francione? To be nice I’ll give PETA credit for six percent of the meat consumption increase, but that still leaves Singer and Francione splitting the last two.
With that retweet, a defeated Francione seemed to be conceding that the focus should be on animal welfare rather than rights. “People are always going to eat meat,” Francione was apparently saying. “Meat consumption is up eight percent. No doubt it will be up nine percent tomorrow. To think animal use will ever drop to zero is a fantasy so childish it would make Peter Pan blush. We must steer course away from abolitionism and put all our efforts toward making sure these animals get the best treatment possible.”
Unfortunately, that was too long to fit into a tweet, so we got that enigmatic retweet instead.
Talk with at least one other person today about veganism.
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Notice that Francione didn’t say “listen to my old podcasts and read my old blog entries about veganism,” the surest way to keep his flock happily in the fold. No, he ordered his followers to talk to regular people, people who are likely not to be abolitionists or even vegans. In other words, he demanded their exposure to other viewpoints, knowing his followers would face difficult questions like “Where do you get your protein?” and “What about cavemen?”
Francione is no fool. He knew this would have repercussions — many abolitionists would become speciesist animal users overnight. And that’s exactly what Francione wanted.
I am going to eat my vegetarian dinner, which is completely plant based,as all vegetarian dinners should be & then The Tudors on Showtime.
April 18, 2010 at 4:30 pm is where I’d pinpoint Francione’s first forays into happy meat. Look how desperately he insists that his meal is meat-free. He’s an abolitionist vegan who once tweeted “Go vegan” multiple times a day. Shouldn’t it go without saying that his meal that night was going to be “completely plant based,as all vegetarian dinners should be”?
And then he quickly changes the subject to “The Tudors,” making sure to name-drop Showtime. Why? So we know he has premium cable? What does this have to do with sentient beings, other than distracting us so we don’t ask for details of his meal, which was almost certainly a pile of butchered sentience? Did you say a prayer to the murdered animals before you ate their delicious decaying flesh, Francione?

Much of this is speculation, but now comes the most damning piece of evidence. Check out this excerpt from a Rutgers News story on June 28, 2010, which includes a quote from Francione, making it the most recent thing the father of abolitionism has said on record:
Four rising young scholars will begin teaching at Rutgers School of Law–Newark during the 2010-11 academic year. “We are absolutely delighted to have been able to hire four excellent entry-level people who show every indication of becoming leaders in their fields. The appointment of these new faculty members demonstrates that Rutgers–Newark remains highly attractive to top candidates entering the teaching market,” said Gary L. Francione, Distinguished Professor of Law, Nicholas deB. Katzenbach Scholar of Law & Philosophy, and Co-Chair of the Appointments Committee.
Who are these “excellent” “top candidates” that Francione was so “delighted” to have at Rutgers? They are: Taja-Nia Y. Henderson, Christina S. Ho, Chrystin Ondersma and Reid K. Weisbord. They seem fine to me, except for one little thing… none of them are vegan! They’re all avowed speciesists! Just look at this this quote from Henderson in The Dartmouth, from when she was in college (a time when most people of a compassionate bent are at least experimenting with vegetarianism):
Taja-Nia Henderson ‘97 said Byrne has “the best food on campus, honestly.” … Henderson said, “I eat at Byrne Hall because it makes more sense than walking to the Food Court to eat a hamburger or some random pasta dish. At Byrne they have several choices whether it be stir-fry or chicken and rice. You don’t have to worry about whether it will be tasty or not. The food is always good,” she added.
“The food is always good,” eh Henderson? Is that what you call abused and murdered sentient beings rotting over rice… “food”? And Francione is delighted?!
In an interview with Columbia University Press a while back, Francione said: “Our only justification for using nonhuman animals in experiments is our species bias, or speciesism, and that prejudice can no more defended than can racism, sexism or heterosexism.” By that logic, a speciesist (non-vegan) professor is no better than a racist, sexist and homophobic professor. Would Francione be delighted to have David Duke as a professor at Rutgers if he were a “top candidate”?
Talk about “moral schizophrenia”!
Unless, that is, Francione is now a speciesist, which is the only conclusion I can draw from this that makes any sense.
So enjoy your happy meat, Francione. At least the cow was smiling before you decapitated it.
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“Getting Americans to understand that eating meat or flesh in all its forms, whether it is red meat, chicken *OR FISH*, eating dairy, which is really just liquid flesh, all these things contain all the building blocks that are promoting Western disease.”
— Rip Esselstyn (asterisks, caps, bold, underline and italics mine)
Rip Esselstyn is the son of Caldwell Esselstyn, a doctor whose claim that a low-fat vegan diet can reverse heart disease is backed by “irrefutable results.” Rip became an athlete and then a fireman in Austin, leaving nutrition theorizing to his dad as he pursued every young boy’s dream. But after Rip convinced his fellow firemen to go vegan to lose weight and lower their cholesterol, he wrote a book about it — The Engine 2 Diet — and became a vegan role model.
According to The Engine 2 Diet ghost writer Gene Stone, however, Rip isn’t actually vegan.
Stone mentioned this in an interview with SuperVegan a few days ago, while talking about going from lacto-ovo vegetarian to vegan in order to write the book:
Fish was the hardest. Every now and then, when I can’t avoid it, such as if I’m at a dinner party and I’m really hungry, I’ll eat fish. I’ve seen Rip do it as well. As he says, you don’t have to be plant-perfect, just plant-strong. … [S]ometimes I think [fish] has health benefits, although I’m not sure because, having written so many books on health, I suspect that modern Western medicine knows little about the subject. …
“Plant-strong” is a term Rip uses often, and maybe savvy vegans will read between the lines and know that means “lots of plants” instead of “only plants.” But Rip uses “plant-strong” interchangeably with “plant-based,” which has come to mean “vegan.” And anyway, Rip isn’t advocating the flexitarianism that he practices. He advocates veganism. In his appearance on Dr. Oz, Rip counseled some overweight Chicago firefighters:
Drill number two, we’re going to be giving up all meat. That means red meat. That means chicken. Chicken has as much cholesterol as red meat. That means fish. Fish has almost as much cholesterol as red meat.
(“Drill one” is giving up dairy.)
Like William C. Roberts, Rip isn’t in total denial about his flexibility, but he’s not as upfront as he could be. In a recent interview, Rip said: “So in 1987 without looking back I dropped the meat and the dairy and the eggs and the fish and I ate all plant-strong. It has given me the edge not only as a human being but as an athlete.”
That sounds to me like he doesn’t eat fish. It also sounds like “plant-strong” is intended to mean “vegan.”
He directly addresses the question of fish on his site, deeming fish oil unnecessary while failing to mention his own taste for the fruit of the sea:
Instead of taking fish oil, rely on ground flaxseed meal, walnuts, soybeans, and green leafy vegetables, all of which contain plenty of essential omega-3 fatty acids.
But if you can maintain long-term health without any animal products, Rip Esselstyn wouldn’t know it from personal experience.
I certainly think flexibility is better than purity. What bothers me is that Rip is inspiring people to make more radical changes in their diets than he is willing to make himself. And if it’s the fish that’s keeping Rip healthy, he’ll be fine while his Engine 2 groupies suffer.
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Dr. William Roberts isn’t a major vegan leader or anything, but he always gets quoted whenever a vegan insists that humans are natural herbivores. Here’s his most popular quote about that (quoted on Goveg.com):
[A]lthough we think we are one and we act as if we are one, human beings are not natural carnivores. When we kill animals to eat them, they end up killing us because their flesh — which contains cholesterol and saturated fat — was never intended for human beings, who are natural herbivores.
[If you want to see Dr. Roberts try to justify this on Supreme Master TV, have at it.]
Since Dr. Roberts is a doctor and “editor of the authoritative American Journal of Cardiology,” some vegans think his stance that humans are herbivores actually means something. Which would be fine, I guess, if Roberts were a practicing herbivore. But he’s not.
As I mentioned in my entry “Are Humans Carnivores, Omnivores or Herbivores?”, I had heard rumors that Roberts was a fish and chicken eating “vegetarian.” Now I have it from a reliable source that these rumors were true. I couldn’t confirm the chicken for sure, but Roberts does eat fish and even uses saturated-fat-laden (and thus fatal) sour cream and butter on baked potatoes.
This isn’t a huge scandal, however. If I’d done more research before, I wouldn’t have needed a spy, because in an interview with “Baylor University Medical Center Proceedings,” Roberts cops to some fish eating. Also in the interview he says it was John Robbins’ Diet for a New America that set him on his path to believing that humans are herbivores. Damn it, John Robbins, why couldn’t you have just gone into the ice cream business like you were supposed to?
Roberts can ignore his own advice if he likes. I’m not going to chastise a man for eating animal products. If he somehow derives pleasure from munching on the tortured corpses and secretions of sentient beings, well, more power to him.
But most vegans aren’t reading Baylor University Medical Center Proceedings, and they assume the doctor who tells them they are not properly designed for animal product consumption is just as strict about this as they are. Yet Dr. William Roberts regularly enjoys a nice fatty tuna steak while his authoritative words make some people too terrified to do the same.
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This isn’t my actual review of Eating Animals. I’m going to try to write that within the next couple of weeks. This is just a minor linguistic quibble that I have with the book.
It’s hard to miss Jonathan Safran Foer’s theme of storytelling in Eating Animals. But “[Something profound] is a story we tell ourselves” isn’t the only trope overused here.
Did anyone notice how often Foer recycles some variation of the phrase “[Something about meat or animals] matters”? Or “[Blank] is a [blank] that matters”? He really likes the word “matters.”
Yet the more he proclaims that this or that “matters,” the more empty the assertions seem and the less inclined I am to believe him. If eating animals so obviously matters, why does Foer have to keep insisting?
He’s like the hero of Poe’s Tell-Tale Heart, who repeatedly contends that he’s not insane, until our only possible conclusion is that he clearly is insane.
In Foer’s case, though, this repetition could work to his advantage, almost as a subliminal message. If we think that eating animals, lowercase, matters, maybe we’ll get discombobulated and think that Eating Animals matters too.
Here are a few instances of excessive mattering that I caught in Eating Animals:
“Feeding my child is not like feeding myself: it matters more. It matters because food matters (his physical health matters, the pleasure of eating matters), and because the stories that are served with food matter.” (11)
“How are animals treated, and to what extent does that matter?” (12)
“I will spend much of the rest of the book explaining what this means and why it matters.” (12)
“These opposing positions… converge in suggesting that eating animals matters.” (32)
“[A cheetah’s] uncanny ability to map space… is a kind of mental work that matters.” (64)
“Virtually everyone agrees that animals can suffer in ways that matter.” (73)
“Another thing most people agree on is that the environment matters.” (73)
“Virtually all of us agree that it matters how we treat animals and the environment.” (74)
“Should we grant that animals might not really suffer—not in the ways that matter most?” (77)
“In some ways factory systems may differ considerably… These are differences that matter.” (136)
“In other ways, though, chicken factory farms… are basically the same… These similarities matter more than the differences.” (136)
“It looks like the fight against the gestation crate is being won. This is a victory that matters.” (184)
“The stories of animal abuse and pollution I’ve related in the context of pig farming are, in most of the ways that matter, representative of factory farming as a whole.” (189)
“So are wild-caught fish a more humane alternative? They certainly have better lives before they are caught… That is a difference that matters.” (190)
“Does all this matter—matter enough that we should change what we eat?” (193)
[Note: If you don’t realize that “all this matters” by page 193, you must have started reading Eating Animals on page 191.]
“These occasions simply aren’t the same without those foods – and that matters.” (194)
“Life overflows with imperfections, but some matter more than others.” (197)
“And while the difference between these two positions matter, they are minor compared to their common ground.” (221)
“From one angle of vision, meat is just another thing we consume, and matters in the same way as the consumption of paper napkins or SUVs…” (264)
But that’s not Foer’s “angle of vision.” Because in a dramatic climax joining all the book’s matterings together into one sentence literally boiling over with meaning and significance, he writes:
“Food matters and animals matter and eating animals matters even more.” (264)
After all these reiterations of mattering, it’s pretty safe for Foer conclude:
“We know that there is something that matters in a deep way about the lives we create for the living beings most within our power.” (266)
And if you don’t know that, then you started reading Eating Animals on page 265.
How does this guy sign his emails? “Yours in mattering, J-Fo”?
Okay, okay, it matters, it matters! God.
But wait. Even if it does all matter… does it matter that it matters?
You’ll have to wait until my actual review of Eating Animals to find out. Until next time, Safran.
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Kind of a hilarious description of a journalist’s lunch with the author of Eating Animals. Culled from the vegansaurus link-o-rama.
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Just yesterday I was thinking “Erik Marcus’ Vegan.com sure is predictable.” Then today Marcus went and wrote something unpredictable.
In the above entry, Marcus links to a video about Walmart’s attempt to produce a more environmentally friendly sour cream. I would have expected a cocktail of dairy, Walmart and nonvegan sustainability to be a potent magnet for vegan scorn, but Marcus admits that Walmart’s propaganda piece makes some good points. “It’s no doubt possible to eat small amounts of certain animal products without causing ruinous environmental consequences,” he says, with what must be a certain amount of reluctance.
What I find so predictable about Vegan.com is that if Marcus ever says anything even slightly positive in the direction of an animal product, he’ll conclude the entry by reassuring us of the supremacy of veganism in every situation, pointing out that of course it’s wrong to ever kill/exploit an animal even if some aspect of it is not quite as evil as usual. And he does that here too. But this time he does so while retreating slightly from the all-encompassing environmental argument for veganism, implying that the ethical argument for veganism is the only truly reliable one.
I’ve heard of other vegans coming to this conclusion too. Since veganism cannot be said to be better for health or the environment in every single instance (Is a vegan cupcake healthier than low-mercury fish? Is wheat meat shipped from Asia better for the environment than local eggs?), some vegans are deciding that the absolutist stance of no animal products ever can only make sense with the animal exploitation argument.
The three pillars of veganism — health, environment, animals — are quickly crumbling to one.
I just didn’t expect Erik Marcus to be one of the early adapters.
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Dr. Winston Craig, MPH, PhD, RD.
Claim to Fame: Co-author of the American Dietetic Association’s 2009 position paper on a vegetarian diet.
Education: Master in Public Health in Nutrition at Loma Linda University, a Seventh-day Adventist university in California that promotes a vegetarian diet.
Profession: Nutrition chair and professor at Andrews University, a Seventh-day Adventist university in Michigan that promotes a vegetarian diet.
Employer’s Mission: “The mission of the Nutrition Department of Andrews University is to prepare dietetic and nutrition professionals for service in church, society, and the world and to influence the community-at large to affirm the Seventh-day Adventist lifestyle, including the vegetarian diet.”
Previous Employment: Chemistry instructor at Kingsway College, a Seventh-day Adventist boarding school in Ontario (1974 - 1976). Assistant professor in Chemistry and Health Science at Adventist College of West Africa (1976 - 1979). Assistant/Associate Prof. in Nutrition at Loma Linda University (1979 - 1984).
Religion: Catholic. Just kidding. Seventh-day Adventist.
Likes: Seventh-day Adventist prophet Ellen G. White, plant-based diets, herb.
Dislikes: Mustard, intemperance, animal flesh.
Most Trusted Nutrition Resources: Prophet Ellen G. White, cereal and enema kingpin John Harvey Kellogg, and God.
Accent: Aussi.
Most Popular Books and Articles: Some Valuable Things I Learnt About Nutrition and Health from Ellen White… The Use and Safety of Common Herbs and Herbal Teas… The Top Ten For Good Health!… Dietary Fat… Raw Foods Diet and Vegetarian Meat Substitutes.
Quotes: “Did you know the Bible describes the best foods for our bodies in Genesis 1:29 and 3:18?”
“The total elimination of oil or visible fat from the diet cannot be supported from science, the Bible, or the writings of Ellen G. White.”
“Temperance in all things is necessary for health and the development of a balanced Christian character (Ellen G. White, Counsels on Health, p. 38). In today’s world, we are continually tempted to excesses or to extremes. Being self-controlled includes restraining ourselves from extremes. Self-control is listed as part of the fruit of the Spirit (Gal. 5:22) and is essential for living an effective and productive Christian life (2 Peter 1:6).”
“The original diet given to humans in Genesis One is a plant-based diet. After the permission to eat flesh food the longevity of people was greatly shortened.”
“Sylvester Graham in 1839 wrote that humans would never suffer illness if they ate only uncooked foods. His ideas on a raw food diet were not endorsed by other health reformers of that time, such as John Harvey Kellogg and Ellen White. Dr Kellogg wrote that he could not endorse the extravagant and unsubstantiated claims made by the promoters of the raw food fad. Ellen White also did not recommend that we eat only a raw food diet. … Ellen White clearly promoted the importance of cooking or baking legumes, grains, potatoes and other starchy foods.”
Controversies: Winston Craig occasionally quotes himself as a source in his own articles. His most common “source” is the General Conference Nutrition Council, a Seventh-day Adventist group with a logo modeled off the United Nations flag. When Craig cites them as a source, he is actually citing his own articles that are published anonymously on that site. Craig even references the General Conference Nutrition Council (himself) in his ADA position paper on a vegetarian diet. After all, when you quote yourself, you’re quoting the most reliable person you know.
Hobbies: Wildlife photography, travel, hiking, birding and growing herb.
Unusual beliefs: God put mustard on this planet to test our faith.*
Celebrity Doppelganger: Andy Stitzer from 40 Year-Old Virgin.
Related Reading: Did Ellen G. White have brain damage?
* He doesn’t say this specifically, but if humans shouldn’t eat mustard, why else would God have put it here?
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The trailer for Forks Over Knives, a documentary featuring vegan Drs. T. Colin Campbell and Caldwell Esselstyn, is full of mysterious claims and provoking questions:
“What if our nation’s health crisis could be solved?”
“If everyone were to adopt this, I really believe we could cut health care costs by 70 - 80 percent.”
“What if there were a single solution to all of these problems? A solution that is so overlooked that nobody is taking it seriously?”
“To me the answer is absolutely so simple, it’s criminal.”
“Our national authorities are simply excluding this concept of nutrition from the debate and the discussion in order to protect the status quo.”
I bet it’s the Blood-Type Diet.
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