Vegans React: Arson in the Name of Animals

Last week, agents of the USA (United Speciesists of America) captured the fire-happy animal liberator ALF Lone Wolf, aka Walter Bond. His neck tattoo — “Vegan” — already marked him as a deviant flesh-abstainer in our bloodthirsty world, but it was his alleged arson against a sheepskin factory, leather factory and restaurant that served fois gras that gave us an excuse to cuff him.

Do vegans support this renegade for giving a voice to the voiceless by any means necessary, or do they wish he’d stuck to buying vegan soy frappuccinos at Starbucks?

Dnadenzien: Fellow vegans - don’t do stupid shit like this in the name of veganism, the vast majority of us will not have your back.

Sneakay: This is fucking nuts, my god.

Saucercrab: Yeah, needlessly skinning thousands of sheep to sell archaic commodities is pretty nuts!

Alex Melonas: I for one FULLY support the use of “violence”, be that property destruction or physical aggression, in principle, to stop a moral wrong. … Our exploitation of nonhuman animals is an enormous moral wrong, causing as it does unimaginable quantities of unjustifiable harm and death. So, the moral question at issue (re: is “violence” to stop this horrible wrong justified) is Yes, as it was in the past.

Eugene: The people who are ultimately responsible are the consumers: People who consume meat and other animal products. … So, since the people responsible for the torture of animals consists of all our closest family and friends, what are we going to do? Set all of their homes on fire?

Michele McCowan: Should we feel bad for the loss of livelihood of murderers? The loss of a building? … They make money off of the cruelty and death of others. How can I feel for them?

veganbikepunk: the vast majority of vegans are more interested in feeling a sense of superiority and fitting into a clique than ending animal suffering. The ALF saves animal lives, absolutely. Can PETA say the same?

‘til it breaks: Suffice to say, we hope the informant gets what’s coming to them, and may the fires of revolt burn ever more fiercely.

Ian: May the informant rot in hell.

Clare Godwin: The ALF only acts in this way once they’ve done all they can in a non-violent way but when nothing seems to be being done and the extreme suffering still exists despite the millions of petitions and protests you kind of learn that they won’t change without direct action being taken…

Mario Righi: full solidarity with him…

Ali Stone: When the breaking news came through that Lone Wolf had been captured…there was overwhelming silence from the Animal Rights so-called Community. … The silence is shameful. Have we all been so cowered and brainwashed by the likes of Roger Yates and Gary Francione that we are a movement of “non violence” (do nothing for fear of doing the wrong thing) instead of FIGHTING FOR ANIMAL RIGHTS. … It’s time the Animal Rights “community” started to realise this WAR will not be won by abandoning those doing the fighting.

ShadowVegan: May this hero soon be free so that he may go on defending the innocent.

Alice: Our official stance here at [Tiny Green Bubble] is that we do not condone violence at all, in any way. Use your words, Bond — come on! That being said … well, foie gras pisses us off, too.

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"Ultimately we should be aiming to abolish words like ‘vegetarian’ and ‘vegan’ completely - normality does not need a label, it’s the flesh-eaters who should be branded as abnormal."

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"I went raw last December to sort of “put things in perspective.” I was having thoughts of relapsing back to dairy and eggs after my sixth month of going vegan, so I decided to try out a more restrictive diet in an attempt to make me appreciate the relative amount of freedom that a regular vegan diet gives you."

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"The animal rights movement is in complete turmoil with no great direction and a large part of this is caused by the Gary Francione cult. … Francione is a US government agent/informer and his mission is to make sure the animal rights movement remains divided and unorganized. The quicker true activists realize the danger this man and his cult pose to animal rights the better. Cult members will lie and lie and lie to try and convince you this is nothing more than a personal hate campaign, absolute bullshit! Former cult members and others who have realized the truth are now trying to inform the community of the truth."

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"Just as I will spend the rest of my life apologizing through my actions for every factory-farmed cow, chicken, and pig whose suffering I endorsed through my meal choices, I now use what voice and influence I have to try to prevent other people from repeating my mistakes and purchasing their pets."
Kayla

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Going Vegan at T. Colin Campbell’s Behest

Cellulite Investigation: It’s hard to come across a reformed omnivore who doesn’t point to Campbell’s book as a motivating factor in his/her vegan adventure. 

Tynan: I used to be a huge fan of meat. … Then one day my friend Hayden loaned me the book The China Study: The Most Comprehensive Study of Nutrition Ever Conducted and the Startling Implications for Diet, Weight Loss and Long-term Health. … I started the book as a skeptic and finished it as a believer. I am now totally confident that eating a diet with little/no meat and lots of vegetables will significantly increase anyone’s overall health and life expectancy.

Marilu Henner: It’s a brilliant book! It’s a brilliant book! I give it to everybody, all the time. It’s so good! If anything should convince you to become vegan, it’s The China Study!

Boston.com: Eric Faulkner, a professional in high tech, is baking a batch of vegan cookies in his Lowell loft. He minces few words to explain why he became a vegan. “I’m scared to death of cancer,” says the lanky 42-year-old. After reading “The China Study,” which purports that animal protein can accelerate the growth of cancer, diabetes, and heart disease, Faulkner ate his last cheeseburger.

Dust2Dust: A professional acquaintance of mine told me couple of months ago that his father went vegan - after reading “some book.” It was The China Study. This was the first time I heard about it. Now the second time I hear about this book is when this acquaintance of mine calls me up yesterday, tells me he read it, he’d just went vegetarian two weeks ago and wants me and my girlfriend to recommend some nice veggie places in town and “maybe we can discuss this over dinner tonight.” Hahah. I like this book already - without even reading it.

Kailla: The book The China Study changed my life. I’ve even got a friend converted after reading that.

Trev: Yeah, read The China Study! Suz and I have converted at least four carnivores with that book!

Wall Street Journal: Mr. Gonzalez had never heard of the vegan diet when he boarded a flight from New York to Los Angeles last spring, about a month before preseason training. His seatmate turned down most of the food offered in first class, and Mr. Gonzalez finally asked why. The man told Mr. Gonzalez about The China Study, a 2006 book by Cornell professor and nutrition researcher T. Colin Campbell that claims people who eat mostly plants have fewer deadly diseases than those who eat mostly animals. … [Gonzalez] bought the book, and after reading the first 40 pages, he says, was convinced animal foods led to chronic illness.

Anonymous: I went vegetarian after — while making a hamburger pattie — the thought suddenly went through my head, “What’s the difference between ground up cow and ground up human? Nothing. I’m done.” Simple as that. Went vegan after researching nutrition for a friend dying of cancer. Found The China Study by T. Colin Campbell and never looked back.

Vegan Athletes: Patrick J. Neshek is a Major League Baseball relief pitcher for the Minnesota Twins. … Patrick went vegan in 2007 after reading the book The China Study

Let Them Eat Lentils: I finally had enough down time to read The China Study, a book cited by many vegetarian/vegans as their reason for giving up meat products. Refreshingly, the author makes virtually no mention of the humanitarian reasons to give up meat, and doesn’t speak at all to slaughterhouse practices, sanitary concerns, etc. … Instead, the premise is much more scientific (as you’ve probably grasped by the title). … In any event, it’s already changed my life.

BeforeWisdom: Many people don’t want to hear about animal suffering, they are only interested in what a vegan diet can do for them. Many people also don’t trust information from vegans. Just look at all of the BS misinformation spouted on this forum. I’m going to read The China Study because I will not find a study or an author with better creds. Once I read it I will be able to recommend it to omnis being assured that it will reek of credibility.

VegeTexan: We had T. Colin as a speaker at our veg society a few years ago. He made perfect sense with a really convincing PowerPoint presentation with graphs and everything. He said he was convinced that animal protein in and of itself was carcinogenic. We had a hundred people at that dinner and a lot of them went vegan that night.

Alcahofa: I like the ethics of began vegan, but for me it was entirely a nutritional decision. I read The China Study after my carnivore husband read it and, completely out of the blue, went vegan as a result. I read it and, much to my surprise, went vegan too. Its a very compelling health argument backed by enormous amounts of data. If you tell me I have a 70% less chance of getting cancer, it turns out that i will give up animal protein. Who’d have thunk.

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Lauragh: I’ve been reading John Robbins’ books and The China Study, which give evidence for the idea that dairy, like other animal protein, can be a contributing cause for cancer, heart disease, osteo, etc. I have two kids and am finding it difficult to know how to feed them. Why is this information not mainstream?

Nikalana: Lauragh, that info is not mainstream because the big dairy conglomerates and other big business DON’T WANT it to be and they have serious lobbying power.

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"I also wanted to help vegans feel more understanding for the carnists in their lives. Activists often lose important relationships after becoming vegan. Some readers have expressed relief to know that carnists are not monsters, to be reminded that we weren’t all born vegan."
Melanie Joy (author of An Introduction to Carnism)

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Should Vegans Hate Meat Eaters?

MartinV: It’s true that some vegans insult meat eaters and even veggies. But people who care about non-humans understandably feel rage at the way humans treat them. Just like most people would feel rage if they heard a rapist or pedophile describing how much they enjoy what they do. Denouncing wrongdoers and insulting them is very unlikely to get them to change their ways but it is very difficult sometimes not to do so.

Huw MacDonald: I think that we should hate arrogant, cruel and heartless meat-eaters that, for example, hunt, fish or eat at KFC despite knowing the cruelty involved. People who say we, as vegetarians/vegans, are pointless and wrong are idiots! However, it’s not right to hate every meat-eater. The majority of people are good, honest people who are mostly unaware of the cruelty practises of the meat industry.

Juli F: I don’t believe that we should hate/dislike the meat eaters, and they shouldn’t hate us. Just because we have a heart and care about animals as much as we do doesn’t give them a right to give us a hard time or rub it in our faces. … It’s not our fault they’re so heartless.

Tori L: We agree that meat *is* murder? And thus, if others are eating meat, don’t we have an ethical responsibility to speak out? i mean, you would speak out if you saw a person murdered, correct? in the words of reverend doctor martin luther king, “our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” and in the words of the amazing film Swing Kids, “If those of us who have a voice do not raise it in outrage at the treatment of our fellow human beings, we will have collaborated in their doom.” i think that also applies to animals. am i saying we should hate meat-eaters? no. but i don’t universally hate murderers either- because that doesn’t accomplish anything.

Nate Morey: I personally have tried not to hate people for eating meat but have you ever talked to them about it? if you talk to them, i mean REALLY talk to them, there is NO WAY you could not hate them. ALL — not most — ALL people who eat meat and do not need it (and you only need it if you’re poor and it’s the only choice, no other reason is good enough) to live, are heartless morons. Now don’t think of me as bad, i’m not, but it’s hard for me to feel ANY compassion for people who do not return the favor. honestly as an example if someone needs my blood to live and ate meat… i would let them die. think about it, if they live they will cause many animals to die. and i think an animal is worth more than a stupid self indulging meat eater any day.

Seth Mair: Hate that they are fascist and support exploitation of animals. Love whatever part of them you can. It is hard for me to handle.

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Veg*an Authorities On “The China Study: The Most Comprehensive Study of Nutrition Ever Conducted”

Neal Barnard (Physician’s Committee for Responsible Medicine): “Everyone in the field of nutrition science stands on the shoulders of T. Colin Campbell, who is one of the giants in the field. This is one of the most important books about nutrition ever written — reading it may save your life.”

Dr. John McDougall: This landmark research shows that even small increases in the consumption of animal-based foods are associated with an important increased risk of disease. The recently published book The China Study has become an instant national best-seller, and is one of the few books on Dr. McDougall’s highly recommended list. (Dr. McDougall and Dr. Campbell have been friends and have worked together to change the way people think about food for more than 15 years.)

Dean Ornish, MD: “The China Study is the most convincing evidence yet on preventing heart disease, cancer and other Western diseases by dietary means.”

Marilyn Gentry (President, American Institute for Cancer Research): “Today, AICR advocates a predominantly plant-based diet for lower cancer risk because of the great work Dr. Campbell and just a few other visionaries began 25 years ago.”

John Robbins: “Dr. Campbell’s new book—The China Study—is a great ray of light in the darkness of our times, illuminating the landscape and the realities of diet and health so clearly, so fully, that you need never again fall prey to those who profit from keeping you misinformed, confused and obediently eating the foods they sell. … If you heed the counsel of this outstanding guide, your body will thank you every day for the rest of your life.”

Marty Davey (vegan dietitian): “[The China Study] is the most definitive study done on the negative repercussions by human ingestion of animal products.”

Joel Fuhrman, M.D.: ”If you’re looking to enhance your health, performance and your success, read The China Study immediately. Finally, scientifically valid guidance on how much protein we need and where we should get it. The impact of these findings is enormous.”

Douglas J. Lisle, Ph.D. and Alan Goldhamer (The Pleasure Trap): “Dr. Campbell’s only agenda is truth. As a distinguished professor at Cornell University, Dr. Campbell is the Einstein of nutrition. The China Study is based on hardcore scientific research, not the rank speculation of a Zone, Atkins, SugarBusters or any other current fad.”

Amanda Woodvine (Vegetarian & Vegan Foundation): There is a compelling case that animal proteins – independent of other associated nutrients – increase the risk for cancer, atherosclerosis, osteoporosis and type 2 diabetes… This was particularly evident in the China Study – one of the largest and most comprehensive studies ever undertaken to examine the relationship between diet and disease. Huge differences were seen in disease rates based on the amount of plant foods participants ate compared to animal foods (Campbellet al., 1993; Campbell and Junshi, 1994; Campbell and Campbell, 2005).

Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn“Well, there are many reasons why they should read The China Study. There are a lot of wonderful things that Campbell has recorded there.”

Bradly Saul (OrganicAthlete.org): “The China Study is the most important book on nutrition and health to come out in the last 75 years. Everyone should read it and it should be the model for all nutrition programs taught at universities. … The science is clearly conclusive: the best diet for humans is the vegan diet.”

Rory Freedman and Kim Barnouin (Skinny Bastard): “It’s absolutely the most compelling, well-researched, in-depth book on nutrition we’ve ever come across. … Please go back and reread Dr. Campbell’s credentials and the background information about The China Study once more. Acknowledge that The China Study isn’t some hole-filled, half-baked, fluff piece, but that it’s the real deal. Now get on board. Seriously. This is no joke. This is literally a matter of life and death. Do not dismiss this information just because it seems outlandish and hard to believe.”

John Mackey (Whole Foods CEO): “The most important book on health, diet and nutrition ever written. Its impact will only grow over time and it will ultimately improve the health and longevity of tens of millions of people around the world.”

Howard Lyman: “[T. Colin Campbell has] authored hundreds of scientific papers, sat on numerous government expert panels and helped shape national and international diet and health organizations, like The American Institute for Cancer Research/World Cancer Research Fund. As a scientist, he has played an instrumental role in how our country views diet and health. … Whether you have interest in your personal health or in the wretched state of health in the United States, this book will richly reward you.”

Jill Nussinow (vegan dietitian): “Don’t become obsessed with getting enough protein, as few people are deficient. … To keep protein in perspective, you might want to readThe China Study by T. Colin Campbell, Ph.D.”

Pamela Rice (101 reasons why I’m a vegetarian): “From the 8,000 significant correlations the study brought forth—a bonanza by any measure—we can now feel confident in the assertion that to be human is to be vegetarian. … Taking everything into account, Dr. Campbell has concluded that animal protein should be labeled a carcinogen. ‘In my view, no chemical carcinogen is nearly so important in causing human cancer as animal protein,’ he asserts. … Ultimately, the epic examination known as the China Study provides a world-class vegetarian vindication.”

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